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Our dear Shariar and what is really al-3ulum al-Islamiya

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Oct 6, 2007 at 13:35

One more gem from our dear Shahriar

It is easy to forget that before the Crusades, while monks in Europe were locking away ancient texts,

Bogus. Monks locked ancient texts? Really? Where and why and who really did it? You are really ignorant about the rule of great cities of the late antique period like Alexandria or about the rule of the city of Constantinople in the transmission of the Greek learning and shame on you for writing this nonsense. As a matter of fact the transmission of the Greek learning back to the West took place as follows:

1. Nestorians in Baghdad (eg: Ishaq ibn Hunein and the bukhtishu family) translated Greek learning to Syriac and then on to Arabic

2. Arabic speaking Jews in Spain translated the above translations to lcoal languages in Spain (eg: Catalan) and this was translated bu no other than Cathloic monks to Latin and all the learning became available again to the people of Europe

Are you also aware that you will find Ishaq ibn Hunein's translation of Ptolemy's work not in a Muslim country but you will find it in Italy! You see Muslims cared less about learing Greek or Syriac they only cared about looting and then getting the credit of good deeds of others.

Muslims -inspired by the Quran which had united them and exhorted them as servants of God (Arabic meaning of "Muslim") to "seek knowledge" -- have made the most astonishing advances in varied fields.

Bogus. al-3ulum al-islamiya is not about science but it is about reading the Qur'an and the hadith and the sira and for this see al-Ghazali's book quoted below. How come you did not know that?

The Europeans built upon the knowledge that they had gained from the Muslim empire.

And to paraphrase you: Muslims bulit upon the knowlege that they have gained from the Greek learning that was translated by non-Muslims to Arabic. See? You are not very original

But when the first Crusade became eminent,

Which crusade is this? The islamic crusade against the people of the Middle East in 633CE?

one scholar believes,

Oh I think it is funny when Paki/tablighee like our dear Shahriar tells us that there is a a scholar but never identify who is really this scholar

Al-Ghazzali -the great Muslim philosopher during the time- "closed" any open interpretations dealing with religion and rational/scientific inquiry in the Muslim world... ..."Islamic attitude ca. 1100 became conservative, mistrustful of effects of science on faith."

You must be joking. Your understanding of writings of al-Ghazali is poor. His major work Ihya' 3ulum al-deen had nothing to do with your bogus claims. No one cared for the poor people and victims of the crusaders in Jerusalem be it Jews or muslims or eastern Christians and not al-Ghazali for sure. It was 100 years later when the crusaders were attacking the Muslim trade on caravan routes in the area of today's Jordan that Muslims had to do something. Muslims did not care about the victims of the crusades or what were the crusades all about. But you know what? for you to blame the decline of the so called Arabian imperialism to the crusades is nothing short of the ultimate bogus.

How come you did not know that?

Submitting....

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