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Submitted by Joe (United States), Feb 27, 2006 at 20:30

First question, did you actually ever study Christianity or Islam extensively from an academic perspective (aka objectively)? I doubt that you understand much of what Islam or Christians believe, because you simply shout out the popular sayings and phrases.

Christians do not argue over who is better in God's eyes. In fact, that would be hypocritical. Christians actually believe that grace is found within the individual. Protestants believe perhaps only 1 or 2 people have ever gone to Hell. Catholics don't believe in Hell as a place, but as a state of mind in separation from God. Also, they believe in the individual's goodness, not whatever group.

If you pay attention to what people are saying, Christians are not arguing that they are better in the eyes of God, or that Muslims are worse off, we are arguing against the hypocrisy of the Muslim religion and its political manifestation. This is the reason why people have problems with Islam; not Buddhism, Hinduism, toaism, or anything else. These religions are very peaceful, and it is clear within these religions what is immoral. Ironically, if Christians on this site were as Polemicist as you make them out to be, they would be arguing with Islam and Judaism against Buddhism or others; but in reality, all the others are arguing against Islam.

However, this is not to say that Individuals of religions other than Islam have never fought or sinned. The Buddhists have waged war, just as the Shinto, the Christians, and the Hindus all have. Every religion is clouded by the imperfect judgments of individuals in the past. The contrast with Islam is that it CAN be prooved that Muhummad, and other central aspects of the Islamic religion are intrinsically imperfect; that is, the institution and doctrine is imperfect, rather than simply imperfect individuals.

The mere fact that the Qur'an and Sunnah of Muhummad CAN be used and is used as evidence for war or looting, is evidence enough of its contradictions. Contradiction is by philosophical definition the only proof of incorrect thought, because matters of personal conviction cannot be argued against. If someone believed God said to kill, then that is what God said. But if God said to kill and not to kill, then that is incorrect due to its contradiction.

I ask you now to find where in Christianity is killing legal or allowed in the eyes of God? Where is the distortion of facts over centuries in Christianity? Islam is only about 600 years older, and by all practical examinations, it was much more assorted then Christianity. Mainstream Christianity grew and thrived in tight communities, while conversely the Muslims expanded faster then their theology could centralize. The result was a conglomeration of ideas and religions that formed Islam from conquered influences and distant empires. The Islam of Muhummad was much different than the Islam of the later Umayyads.

I ask again, where is the truth distorted? Is the golden rule distorted, the rule lacking in Islam? Which stories of the Bible are not wonderful and awe-inspiring? Which ones do not teach a valuable lesson of wholeness and goodness?
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