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Question to Harrak : "Do you as a true Muslim want the West to become Muslim"?

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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Jan 23, 2006 at 07:04

Harrak, you wrote :

> Ianus ..I can ask the whole Christianity that same question.

Can you... ? America has been founded by Christians as a Christian country so your question seems pointless. As such it has achieved much. If you want to ruin America and change it into a Third World country the surest way is to make it a Muslim country.

> Actually, Islam is a religion historically known of expansion true conversion by choice through trade, research etc..

"Historically"?...Have you ever read a history of Byzantium or India or Persia ? ... Or you only mean barren Muslim theology disguised as "history" ...

>Christianity is the religion of preaching and see the history of that preaching especially during the colonial era.

You're right, Christianity preaches. You can disagree (I do) and your head isn't cut off or smashed or you're not on the brink of both when you disagree with Islam in an Isalmic country.

>there are threefold answer to the question you asked:

1- Muslim educated Sunnites and educated -quasi secular- Muslims will answer you that they do not want every body to become Muslim because it goes against the natureof things. can you make all people black or white! can you make all the world speak one language! and here I would like to question the validity of the question its self as being non-founded..

... " quasi secular Muslims" ... It sounds even more nonsensical than 'moderate Muslim'...
Muslim " nature of things"... What is it ?... "Become a Muslim or die or be a slave of Muslims" ...- the Muslim nature of things...Allah is the only reality for Muslims...
"the validity of the question its self as being non-founded.."... - Come on ! This question is the simplest and surest loyalty test that I can imagine!...Much more practicable that what the two German ministers have recently invented to unmask some trouble-makers from "the religion of peace"... Put any Muslim to it and you'll see what kind of future your country is heading to with him and his "brethren" reaching a critical mass in your society ! And you dare deny the validity of the question?!... Sure! You wouldn't like people to know what you're after!

> 2- Muslim extreemists just like Christian fanatics will answer you yes..

"Muslim extremists like Christian fanatics" !... Yes, they both commit suicide attacks and
preach -" 'convert or die' philosophy... This is a poor trick, sir!...It may work for an ignoramus, not for me! Think of something less trite and more probable!...

> they want to make the world go their way. See, like G.W. BUSH who says `: either with us or with the terrorist" I find that a manifestation of pure INTELECTUAL NUDITY. None but the donkey has one way because the donkey can not see neither right nor left..and here I would like to state that USA could be way better off with Daniel Pipes instead of GW Bush. can you Imagine Bush running this web site with the mentality of `: my way or the high way"I do not thing I would have these views posted. The west must be shy to have an illeterate figure ruling with a group of the followers of Superman and Zoro..sorry for diagressing here. But againt what is the difference in Bin laden and Bush view of the world!

I know for you Bush is the American version of Osama Bin Laden, isn't he? ...Besides, all Muslims are moderates and some are even secular ...besides those Christian extremists like Bush make Muslim life in the west a nightmare...They destroy the mosques, denigrate their superior way of life as inferior, persecute and massacre Muslims around the world, exploit them and boast of their Jesus Christ, the extremist hater of Muslims ! ...
... I am sure sure you have met many naive people in your life , perhaps too many..."Les ingénus" are so useful ...Can you still imagine there are many people who aren't and don't want to be ? ....

>"...and here I would like to state that USA could be way better off with Daniel Pipes instead of GW Bush."

Maybe Dr. Pipes will appreciate your flattery... I am sure at least that under his presidency the Saudi billions bribing the minds and hearts of America into dhimmitude would stop allowing America to wake up...

... All other national and social conflicts in this world are but trifles in comparison with the threat Muslims and their death cult poses to this world and its stability ! ...

> 3- Shiites answer will be that they definitly are not interested in Islamizing the west as by doing that they steal the role of the twelfth Imam who will come at the end of the world.

Shiites "definitely not interested in Islamizing the west"? ... They with their taqyia mentality are definitely interested in letting you know about what they think and what they're really interested in doing!.....

Back ad rem! My question to you :

Do you as a true Muslim want the West to become Muslim ?

Futile question! Every Muslim wants the West to become Muslim! There are not three answers but only one to this crucial question - all Muslims want the West to become Muslim! They are here to carry that dream (=nighmare) out to change the West into another Islamic hell as we know it too well from the Muslim Near East!

> I hope this helps you Ianus ..

Mutatis mutandis I share your hope, Harrak.
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