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Guiding the perplexed our dear Nasr

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Feb 21, 2015 at 09:43

I asked our dear Nasr al-tablighee

[[So you still did not answer my question: What do you do for living while the Chinese and the Hindus and the Buddhists of Malaysia work?]

And this is his answer

Similar like other humans in Malaysia, after graduating from Uni. You get professional jobs and carry out life till reach death. What about you?

So what professional job was that?

Then I asked

[[Hint: he told us that the earth is flat and it is the center of the universe and the sun orbits earth because the Qur'an says so right?Well read my link from his web site if you can read Arabic and hint: He does not even mention the name of the Prince and as for Ibn al-Qayyim he never said that the earth is like a ball and here is the link againhttp://www570What a disaster and Bin Baz never changed his opinion he only he insisted that the Qur'an says that the earth is flat and stationary and the sun and the moon orbit the stationary earth. What a .binbaz.org.sa/mat/8640What a disaster the earth is flat and the sun orbits earth and the fool issues a fatwa of takfeerHe really did not here is the link again if you can read Arabichttp://www.binbaz.org.sa/mat/8640And here is the link for his hissy fit directed against the Egyptian secularist Ahmad Baha' el-Din if you can read Arabichttp://www.binbaz.org.sa/mat/8disasterRead my links from HIS WEB SITE and tell us what he wrote!Hello: there is nothing not a thing in this link and to add insult to injury it is not in ArabicShame on you you did not even check your own linkTell us kuffar what did he say in the links that I provided? Oh I forgot you cannot read Arabic I see]]Are you sure? http://www.binbaz.org.sa/mat/18030[[And here is tafseer Ibn Kathir to this disaster that the EARTH IS STATIONARY and that the sky can come down crashing on the flat and stationary earthI see so you agree with Ibn kathir that the earth is stationary thank for proving my pointAnd this is what I wroteWhat interpretration when the Qur'an makes it very clear that the earth is flat and stationary and the sun and moon orbit earth! It is a disaster]]

So what was his answer? Read and laugh

Abu Ya'la in his work

I thought that it was Ibn Qayyim or did you forget?

Tabaqatal-Hanabilah

ROTFL Pakistani Arabic it is Tabaqat al-Hanbilla

(Biographical Entries of the Hanabali Scholars) quotes the unanimous consensus (ijma) of all Muslim scholars that the earth is round in 10th century.

Then it should be easy provide me with the Arabic link and I will be waiting for you to make a fool of yourself

For the readers our dear Nasr told us that Ibn Qayyim is the one who told us that the earth is spherical and when I proved him wrong now he has an obscure Muslim 3Alim so I would like to read it our dear Nasr in Arabic!

Having geocentric system is the philosophy at the time in 11th century.

Evidence in Arabic!

As for transition from geocentric to heliocentric system, Islamic worlds have no issue since the Quran and hadith did not say specifically about appointed course of Sun by Creator in specific.

Not true your Allah the moon God orders his followers in Q9:37 to use the 360 days calendar and he regarded al-Nasi (the intercalary month) as Kufr! What a disaster

And you know what?the smart Persians knew that the lunar year is a flawed way of counting the time and this is why they used and still use the solar hijri calendar

Also, no trials made by scholars when transition of solar system made in Islamic countries.

So why do the Persians use the solar hijri calendar? Because they know very well that your Allah did not get it and that the lunar calendar is flawed

As in Islam there is no such thing as Holy Spirit teaching scientific facts towards scholars.

Oh Gabriel the Islamic holy spirit teaches scientific facts among them that the earth is flat? Mash'allah after all he was the one who was transmitting this bogus cosmology to your so called prophet

Do you see why silence is golden?

Afterall men going to space have been mentioned by Creator in Quran.

Evidence! In Arabic!

Then I quoted this very famous Islamic saying

[[التفسير للصحابة والتاءويل للفقه

So you tell us our dear Nasr what does this mean? Let me guess you have no clue now you tell me why do you make a fool of yourself?Then you are really saying that Muslims should get rid of the writings by al-Mufasereen? Right?]]

And this is his answer

Scholars giving their interpretations.

Wrong

So you can use it as source to comprehend the science behind it. But the true divine words are only in the Quran. Why need to get rid? It is just interpretations. No harm in reading and using it.

I see you cannot read the Arabic! Thank you for proving my point

Then I asked

[[But here is the real disaster this means that Muslims for the past 1400 years have been fooled by the writings of al-Mufasereen because they said that the Qur'an says that the earth is flat and stationary and that the sun and the moon orbit earth!]]

And this is his answer

Spherical earth was notion among the scholars in 12th century.

Prove it! As in chapter and verse in Arabic!

"Fakr Al Razi" pointed to the Sphericity of the earth in his clarifying book "Mafatih Alkaib"

ROTFL it is Mafatih al-Ghaib now where the link in Arabic I'm waiting

For better clarification, readhttp://www.speed-light.info/miracles_of_quran/earth.htm

No I want the original text in Arabic!

Then I wrote

[[Right leave Islam and be free]]

And this is his answer

Leave the false idea of having freedom in doing daily life. Start thinking about abiding to Creator.

Who is the your creator? Oh Allah? then you must be the son of Allah right? But wait the Qur'an says thatr Jesus created life so could your creator be Jesus the PUBH?

Afterall, humans have disected bodies and reached nano levels of seeing cells inside body and yet humans cant find a way to stop death. And No! Do not become a dhimmi, bear witness instead.

Hello: leave islam and stop being needy

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