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The creator in the Qur'an and his poor creation

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jan 16, 2015 at 09:08

More Quranic disasters this is my question

[[Earthquakes take place blah...blah...blah "underneath where human stands" ! What? are you for real? but again education in Malaysia must be a disaster]]

Is this inferiority taking place as facts being presented?

Oh and speaking of inferiority our dear Nasr regards Arab culture as far superior in comparison with the culture of his own people in Malaysia

There is nothing wrong in learning something new and truthful. What came from underneath will gush upwards do you not agree?

Agree with what? That you are and must pradon me debating a subject that is clrealy beyond your poor and uncritical education?

And this was my question

[[By your and the author of the aya flawed logic the Rocky Mountains should be in Malasyia by now so is the Rocky Mountains in Malaysia by any chance?Now let us see what al-Tabari tells us about this ]]

By your logic cloud is moving in a straight direction.

Where did I say that?

Would not this mean you are saying earth is horizontal?

It is your Allah who is saying that the earth is flat or did you forget?

Thus cloud would be moving in one direction back and forth. Certainly that is not the case as cloud movement is affected by earth's rotation.

What rotation? your Allah says that the earth is STATIONARY! or did you forget?

You see our dear Nasr the pagan greeks taught us the great rule KISS! Oh you do not get it do you?

This is my question

[[Mr and you must padron me ignorant if the earth rotates which is does then mountains also rotate right? but wait your Allah says that the earth is FLAT AND STATIONARY!]]

And this is his answer

Earth is nowhere mentioned to be stationary.

Here is my evidence again

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/220316

Oh I forgot that you cannot read Arabic right?

As for God making earth spread to be flat and extract waters out of it is for livings things to be able to inhabitate earth.

So where does it say that in Q79:30?

So when human look at the surrounding, would no they see the surface of moon being full of crates and waterless as not extracted.

But the Qur'an as I proved to you says that there are people that live on the moon that pary to Allah! What a disaster

Such comparison will cause human to be grateful and not forget the duty towards the Creator.

Says who? This creation of your Allah is a big time disaster with wars and famines and disease and death and cyclones and earthquakes (Oh I forgot mountains prevent earthquakes) and comets chasing al-shaytan

Then I asked

[[Then how come the more mountians you have the more earthquakes you would have as in the case of the failed state of Pakistan? Oh you do not believe me? here read thisAnd no mountains do not have roots or pegs and more damaging to your case is that mountains do not prevent earthquakes and do not stabilize the techtonic movement and do not resemble pegs or act in the manner in which pegs are used]]

Mountains do have roots.

Mountains are not rawasi or pegs! But the worst thing is when some fool tell us that mountains are pegs of a tent and have it in writing and then have more fools trying to explain this disaster

The description of Quran is truthful and not contradicting the finding.

The description of the Qur'an refletcs that fact that the auothor of the Qur'an was an Arab who knew about tents and pegs

As earth rotate,

Where does it say that in the Qur'an? Hint: the Qur'an says that the earth is STATIONARY!

it contributes to movement of continent, a bulky shape of peg will cause less vibration towards creatures staying on earth thus making surface of earth inhabitable.

Then prove it or shut up

As the deeper roots will attract vibration first thus making lands with shorter roots attract vibration less.

Where does it say that in the Qur'an? and if this is true then how come we have more earthquakes in places like the failed state of Pakistan?

As for quakes happening frequently nowadays, that is part of end of times propheices. Scientifaiclly, its all about movements undernearth the surface.

gobbledygook

Then I wrote

[[Or He made for you the earth as bed and the sky as building (copula)]]

This is his answer

'Like beds and building', well the moment any readers read it it, they will know the verse talks about human being given a place to stay and protected with firm skies as not celestial objects dropping towards earth.

No your Allah is really saying that the universe is like a tent with a flat earth and the sky is flat and the mountains are like the pegs in a tent so they prevent earthquakes and the sky will not come down crashing on your bed oh the stars? Your Allah says that they are DECORATIONS in the sky! What a disaster

Nowhere does it indicate shape at all.

So tell us what it says and the following will be accepted as evidence: Verses from the Qur'an IN ARABIC no translations will be accepted

Unless you are visualizing heavens like clay roof in Arabia?

There are clay roofs in Arabia? Where?

Certainly that is not the case, as verses of Quran mentioned about smokes being attribute in space.

Really? Where does the Qur'an say that?

This was my conclusion

[[So in summary your Allah is saying that 1. The earth is flat and it is like you bed 2. The sky is a copula 3. This means that the universe is a tent]]

And this is his answer

Reread http://beta.quran.com/78/6-7 for more translations.

How many times did I tell you that i do not read translations because Muslim translators of the Qur'an the likes of Yusuf Ali are liars

This is another conclusion of mine

[[ The mountains are there to support the sky with the help of pegs (just as you would find in a tent of an Arab) so the sky does not come down crashing on your bed!]]

And this is our dear Nasr's answer

You are visualizing a real building being earth and sky?

These are not my words these are your revered Mufasereen that say that!

And you say pegs support the sky? That doesnt make sense.

I'm glad you agree with me and disagree with your Allah!

Vertical posts and horizontal frames of tent will support 'sky' not pegs.

Then tell your revered Mufasereen that they will wrong

I am not sure what tent are you visualizing now, but i hope its not the sort of tent where peg-mountain need to exist at end of universe to pinned down the tent 'skies'.

gobbledygook

Basically, the verse mentioned about earth and firmed sky making it a good place to inhabit for human.

Not really this creation of your Allah is a disaster with wars and famines etc... is a big time disaster

The next verse mention about earth and it and having firm mountain pegs.

So are the mountains really pegs? HINT: they are not

When you have something firm and rigid with long deep roots, the root will receive the waves first and later spread to larger area above. Thus making the spreaded land inhabitable.

I feel sorry for you and for your very poor uncritical education but again this is what islam is all about

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