The Quranic word Ahad in Surat al-Ikhlas means one of so who are the other Gods?
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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Feb 21, 2015 at 12:39
Our dear Nasr is back and I wonder why
I asked him
[[Or Did you not see to Allah prostrate who is in the sky and who IS IN: the earth and the moon and the stars and the trees and the beasts and many peopleAnd the beasts? People ride beasts and they prostrate to AllahWhat a disaster the Qur'an says that there are people that live on the sun and the moon!1. قول الم تر الله يسجد له من في السماوات وكثير من الناس في الارضOr SAY did you not see to Allah prostrate those in the skies and many people on earth2. The rest of the aya would be a separate aya and it would be as follows2. قول الم تر الله يسجد له الشمس والقمر والنجوم والجبال والدوابOr SAY did you not see to Allah prostrate the sun and the moon and the stars and the mountains and the beastsHint: this is what your Arab masters called Iltifat or confused Quranic syntax]
And this is his answer
Reread again http://quran.com/en/22/18. Entitites "in earth"
Give me one good reason why should i read it again one single good reason
For the readers when tablighees have no answer they come up with the cockamamie excuse of "Only if you read it again"
" in heavens" are mentioned later on. It is really easy to comprehend. Non-muslims readers too will be able to comprehend it easily. BUT you logic or interpretation is that something is living in والدواب?
Careless reader I wrote that people ride beasts and PEOPLE pray to Allah you did not even get it shame on you
Then I wrote
من في السماوات ومن في الأرض والشمس والقمر والنجوم والجبال والشجر والدواب وكثير من الناس[[But more damaging to your case what does this have to do with the fact that Allah says in 79:30 that the earth is flat? Enlighten me please]]
And this is his answer and for the rdears notice that our dear Nasr was telling us that Bin Baz claimed that Ibn al-Qayyin claimed that the earth is like a ball and when I proved to him from Ibn al-Qayyim himself he never wrote that he is now trying to find another literary source so I'm not going to do his home work this time and i will ask him to provide us with the literary evidence in Arabic now watch him making a fool of himself again
Abu Ya'la in his work Tabaqatal (sic) -Hanabilah (sic) (Biographical Entries of the Hanabali Scholars) quotes the unanimous consensus (ijma) of all Muslim scholars that the earth is round in 10th century.
Evidence in Arabic! If you do not have the evidence in Arabic then shut up
Then he wrote this little gem
If you compare with surface of moon being not flat and water not extracted from within, on the other hand you have earth being spread flat and have source of water extracted from within, you can see the verse is talking about making the earth habitable.
And your point is?
Then I asked
[[So you tell me how come Allah does not seem to know that the main source of water is rain and melting snow!]]
And this is his answer
Are you sure?
Very sure your Allah even says that it rains in Egypt when it does not. So does it rain in Egypt as Allah says? Hint: No it does not What a disaster
thus Read http://beta.quran.com/en/24/43
Where is the snow? Hint: The source of the water of rivers in India is from melting snow but your Allah is an Arab he thought that water comes from Beer Zamzam and that is it
And it does not take too much to know that rain is a source of water but your Allah was an Arab what can i tell you
Then i asked
[[I thought Allah tells us that the mountains are not fixed and they move like the clouds! He cannot make up his mind!]]
And this is his answer
Not really. Read again the verse.
Spare me the "read again" read what again? that Allah cannot make up his mind?
What the eyes see is fixed mountain. But they are moving. Meaning earth is moving towards a specific location.
Where does it say that? Hint: Allah cannot make up his mind and this is why al-Tabari fixed this disaster
Then I asked
[[What a disaster well if we check al-Tabari he fixed this strange word حصب and tell us that it is really حطب or Hatab or Firewood oh you do not believe me here is al-Tabari's exegesis of this disaster]
For the readers when tablighees have no answer they tell us kuffar but we kuffar have the answer! Right our dear Nasr al-tablighee?
There you go, you jsut answered your own argument.
So what is my own argument? enlighten me please
Tabari is explaining the science behind the word.
What science? al-Tabari is horrified at the fact that your Allah cannot make up his mind and this is why he fixed this disaster
For example Ahad being a hebrew word.
Mr and you must pardon me ignorant the word Ahad احد is a perfect Arabic word (Gasp!) and it really means ONE OF as in احد الاشخاص oh احد الاشخاص? And it does not mean one. Ask your stupid Mullah to translate it for you if he knows Arabic
Your so called God would have been correct if the author of the Qur'an would have used ال التعريف قبل كلمة احد oh ال التعريف قبل كلمة احد go and ask your Mullah if he knows Arabic garmmar but again tablighees like you have no clue about how and when to use the Arabic language definite article and so is your Allah
Your Allah could have been correct if he would have used the word واحد instead of the grammatically incorrect احد
He also could have been correct if he would have said الاحد
And by the way Q112:1 is plagiarism of the Biblical Shima as we have it in the Peshitta (The Syriac Bible) and the word احد ir really from the Syriac ܚܕ or aKhad
Then tafsir will explain the word and also verses of Quran.
Sobhanallah wa minkum nastafeed
I read this as you are clueless and may be you get away with your nonsense in Malaysia but not here in the kafir west
There is no such thing as fixing the Quran.
Go and tell al-Tabari and Ibn Kathir and al-Qurtubi that you our dear Nasr who clearly know no Arabic
Only you are arranging your words in that manner.
Arranging what? I only tell you what your revered sources tell us in Arabic so if you do not like what I write then destory such sources and good riddance
This can be easily explained as you cant digest the idea of having Creator and creations.
Then prove to me that there is an Allah hard and soild evidence and the following will not be accepted as evidence:
1. Because the Qur'an says so or
2. Because prophet Quthm I mean Muhammad said so
3. Because your Mullah told you so
now it is your turn to make a fool of yourself again
Education is Malaysia must be a disaster
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