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To Muslim:Re better late than never

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Submitted by Plato (United Arab Emirates), Jan 14, 2007 at 06:18

Apology accepted.

Mr. Muslim when someone calls you "najees" (unclean), calls you deaf, blind and mindless, repeats ad infinitum how he will burn and torture you forever in hell for what he himself has decided is the terrible sin of shirk, tell me honestly will you respect such a person? If he is a great and powerful person you will fear and obey him but how can any sane person respect and love him unless he is some kind of masochist? We treat people with respect only those who treat us with respect. I hope that makes clear my standpoint.

You have taken an extreme example of killing against mine of a non-violent statement. Certainly if people have killed before it does not justify killing now as you say. But when the sacred symbols of the pagans is made fun of and derided by the same god, you say should be treated with respect, and the infidels return the compliment then what would you say and why. It is just tit for tat you know.

You say: "I do believe that in the end Allah awaits to pass his judgment on us.." Why does Allah have to wait to pass judgement on us. He knows before he even creates us where we wll end up. This is a point I have been arguing with someone else on another blog but it just does not seem to register with him.

About your points regarding tafsirs. Since the Arabic language, you say, is rich in vocabulary it should be easy for Allah to make crystal clear (as he often claims) what he is saying. How can a scripture be ambigous or let its interpreters come to sometimes almost diametrically opposite conclusions if it is a "clear book easy to understand". Take a look at this: You are aware of the verse where God says there is no compulsion in religion but then how do you explain these verses: 009.029 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. Or this: 003.085 If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).

Now what is a believer supposed to do? What different meanings of words can he search for or what context can he look for to make the two verses also say that there is no compulsion in religion. What a tired old excuse context and shades of meaning of words have become to read anything one wants into the Koran. What it really argues for is the total ambiguity of a book that claims to be "clear and easy to understand". Try to convince me anyway, Mr. Muslim, that there is no clash between the verses. It will be interesting to read your take on them. There are many more of these contradictory verses strewn all over the Koran and dozens of apologists scrambling all over the internet trying to reconcile them.

About Allah deceiving, as I said in my mail, I was only vaguely aware of it. Do you have the verse numbers so I can have a closer look at them. Thanks.

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