To Moshe: Not kidding. We need to plug away
Submitted by Plato (United Arab Emirates), Dec 25, 2006 at 00:43
Yes, it does seem futile arguing with people of faith. Their faith is the wall that 'shields' them from the light of reason. But there must be others also, including Muslims, reading this debate and they can see the dissumulation and sophistry indulged in by them when the foundations of their faith begin to crumble under the power of history, reason and logic. That is the hope. Reason always wins but the more of it there is the better off the world will be for us and for everyone's children.
Readers will notice how somebody like Brother Raqib either deliberately distorts (hopefully not) or has been misinformed about historical facts. He blandly states with great assurance that the person who judged the Banu Quraiza was a Jew. (History)
They will themselves use truncated verses to stress a point but accuse others of quoting out of context or randomly if they do not like what was pointed out. As for instance he quoted "..." Deaf, dumb and blind. They will not return " (Qur'an 2:18) --
Not realising that when the previous verses are taken into account you come up with a God who not only acts capriciously but who expects you to believe blindly and then accuses unbelievers of being blind! (Reason or rather unreasonableness)
Another verse in mutilated form so beloved of Muslim believers is the one about killing one innocent being akin to killing all of humanity when on reading the full verse you realise it is meant only for the Jews.
They will also notice how in trying to get the Koranic verses to agree with agreed and observable science he ends up with the sun both moving and resting at the same time. (Logic)
The universe of belief is made of such wonderful stuff.
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