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To Zedine about final reply - 1

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in response to reader comment: Here is my final reply to your questions

Submitted by Plato (United Arab Emirates), Jan 7, 2007 at 23:34

Mr. Zedine I went through your final reply and have this to say:

"In Part one you will find most of the answers to the questions about Prophet Mohammed. The Life of Prophet Mohammed is an example for the whole of Mankind. God loved His Messenger Mohammed for his exemplary life and For delivering God's Message that is Holy Quran to Mankind."

Well Mr. Zedine in my last post I gave examples of the kind of examplary actions the Prophet has left for mankind to follow. Torturing a person to ferret out treasure as was done to Kinana of Banu Nadir is a fine example to follow. Having a woman poetess and a centenarian poet assassinated for criticising him is a fine example to follow. Robbers who killed his shepherd having their eyes gouged out, their arms and legs hacked off and then left out in the blazing sun to die of thirst is also a good example to follow. If you have read your Sirat you will know that these are often portrayed as great acts on the part of your Prophet.

Mr. Zedine you and 1.5 billion of your fellow believers are welcome to such holy blood letting. But don't expect the rest of mankind, about 5 billion of them, to emulate such acts of mercy as demonstrated by the man who god chose as a mercy to all mankind.

But to quote from your post Mr. Zedine:

"Prophet Mohammed is held in High Esteem by about one and half Billion Muslims today, as well as millions of Non Muslims.

Below are some of the Verses of Quran in which God has praised His Messenger

Mohammed.

" And Most Certainly, Thou (O Muhummed) Art of most sublime And Exalted Character"

Holy Quran 68:4'

MOST Certainly, YOU HAVE IN THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH' AN

EXCELLENT PATTERN (OF BEHAVIOUR)"

Well since the Koran has stamped the Prophet with exalted character and excellent pattern of behaviour you will haved to admit that torture, assassination and mutilation are also exalted and excellent acts.

You have selectively quoted lots of people out of which I recognise only Gandhi, Shaw, Gibbon. Despite all the praise they have lavished on Mohammed none of them became his followers. Gandhi remained a staunch Hindu, Shaw and Gibbon were perhaps atheists, the other unknowns I do not know. Why is that Mr. Zedine? If they were such great admirers of the Prophet why did they not accept his mission and message? Give it a little thought.

"He practiced what he preached. " Oh yeah? How many wives did he have while he preached that the rest of us males can have only four. Also he married Safiya the same day after killing all her kinsfolk, including her husband. Why was the waiting period not observed. Remember she was a follower of the Book.

Again I quote you: "He sent out five epistles, one each to five countries, inviting them to

Islam. 1. The Emperor of Persia 2. The King of Egypt 3. The Negus of Abyssinia

4. The Emperor Hiraclius at Constantinopple 5 The king of Yemen."

You should also have let the readers know the kind of messages he sent out. And you have missed out the "message" he sent the Julanda brothers of Oman. So read it now if you are unaware of it:Peace be upon the one who follows the right path! I call you to Islam. Accept my call, and you shall be unharmed. I am God's Messenger to mankind, and the word shall be carried out upon the miscreants. If, therefore, you recognize Islam, I shall bestow power upon you. But if you refuse to accept Islam, your power shall vanish, my horses shall camp on the expanse of your territory and my prophecy shall prevail in your kingdom."

I believe this message is proudly displayed in a fort in Oman (Sohar?). Remember Mr. Zedine in your last post you said your Prophet indulged only in purely defensive war. What does this message to a far away kingdom which would have only been dimly aware of what was going on in Mecca/Medina sound like to you?

Read this sentence again:

Letting the prophet's horses thunder across other lands is a mercy. Again your dictionary is different from mine.

But if you refuse to accept Islam, your power shall vanish, my horses shall camp on the expanse of your territory and my prophecy shall prevail in your kingdom."

You say: "History will tell you that it was the darkest period in the history of mankind when Mohammed (pbuh) was commanded to declare his mission."

Which history books are you referring to? Let us assume that it is true. But then the Prophet's mission seems to have failed as Ghengis Khan, Taimur, Hitler also arose and all kinds of social disparities and crimes continued.. The world went through equally or worse situations. So what was the point in sending the final messenger? Could Allah not do a better job?

Your quote: " Holy Quran is from God for whole Mankind." And god tries to ensure that by letting the Prophet's horses thunder across the world.

Mr. Zedine would you care to reply?

Refuse to accept Islam and my horses will thunder across your kingdom. Would you now care to redefine the concept of defensive war Mr. Zedine? And then you quote the Koran: And we sent thee not (O Muhammed) but as a mercy unto (all) the worlds" holy Qoran 21:10.
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