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Our dear Nasr has no clue about the Quranic rasm and the editing of the Qur'an

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jan 13, 2015 at 08:43

Our dear Nasr does not seem to realize that he cannot tell us kuffar what the Qur'an says based on his tendentious translations that are full of lies as in the case of the shameful translation by the other Ahmadee and Tablighee Yusuf Ali

Now here is another question

[[Not true the Qur'an makes it very clear that Islam is the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only so who was the rasul that was sent to your people in Malaysia because he is not Abul Qasim oh would you like to know more?]]

And this is his answer

It good you mentioned about Hijazi Arabs. Try reading about prophecies about servant of God from the East that will bring covenant for mankind. And the arabs will be the one spreading His praise to far end of earth.

I only read the Qur'an and I read it in Arabic and the Qur'an says that Islam is the religion of the Arabs only would you like to know more?

But I'm curious what is wrong with Urdu or what ever language that you speak how come the Qur'an was not revealed in Urdu and why is your Allah silent about the religions of your ancestors be it Hinduism or Buddhism? Let me guess Allah is an Arabian deity and he did not know about anything beyond Arabia right?

Then I asked

[[Is it true that the Qur'an says that the earth is flat in Qur'an 79:30?]]

And this is his answer

First the verses is talking about perspective of human being at smaller scale hence next verse talking about cows mountain etc.. not full scale from outer space. That is why the language is earth spread to be flat for human to stay on.

Well let us do a linear translation

1. والارض or and the earth

2. بعد after this (al-Tabari corrects this word and he believed that it shoud be مع which really means that Allah had no clue about the chronology of his own creation! What a disaster)

3. ذلك means this

4. دحاها (ooops I just fixed the spelling) means HE MADE IT FLAT

The author of the Qur'an is saying, and it is straight forward: And the earth after this (creation) he made it flat

Your Allah is saying that the earth is flat which means that Bin Baz was very correct

Also a Mufti from 50 ago who wrote about earth being stationary, later got corrected by the prince. And the Mufti mentioned something about shape of earth.

Do you know what this means? It means that your are saying that the Ulama have been lying to Muslims and telling Muslims that earth is flat but the truth is they were not liars they were telling Muslims that the earth is flat because the Qur'an says so

Thank you our dear Nasr and you did prove my point

In 1966 ibn Baz wrote "The quotation I cited [in his original article] from the speech of the great scholar Ibn Al-Qayyim (may Allah be merciful to him) includes proof that the earth is round.

This will not be regarded as evidence unless you provide the text in Arabic deal?

Then I wrote

[[Wrong al-Tabari tells us what Allah is saying and the one to be blamed is your so called Allah]]

This is his answer

Reread post above about the great scholar Ibn Al-Qayyim.(sic) Begs a question, did Al-Tabari and Al-Qayyim have different Allah base on your logic as what you just posted.

His name is Ibn al-Qayyum!

So was al-Tabari and Ibn Kathir and al-Qurtubi ignorant? And guess what they are all right because the Qur'an says that the earth is flat

But I'm going to give you a chance: Provide me with Ibn al-Qayyum text in Arabic because I really do not beleive tablighees like you

Then I wrote

[[The ignorant is he who says that the earth if flat and put it in writingWhat a disaster and we have three types of mistakes in this little gem and let me repeat them one more time]]

And this is his answer

If you go to 16th century, the idea of flat earth still exist. Galileo refutes it.

But Allah says is his al-lawh al-mahfuz that the earth is flat right? and Galileo proved him wrong right? see how easy it is to poke big holes in your bogus claims?

But the mistakes was just about their opinion. Also your claim was refuted with story of Mufti quoting that shape is round.

gobbledygook

Then I wrote

[[And if we kuffar read your aya in Arabic we can find that you are using the EDITED دحاها and not Allah's word دحها do you know what his means ya ayuha al-ghabi al-kabeer? It means that you are EDITING Allah's little book]]

This is his answer

Try checking http://quran.com/79/30 whether دحها or دحاها is farther reaffirmed by recitation.

Mr and you must pardon me ignorant you have no clue about the Quranic rasm right? Let me help you:

1. This is your Allah's rasm دحها

2. This is the editing of the Ulama دَحاهَا what a disaster the ulama added an alif and two fathas so next time some one tell you that the Qur'an we have has not been edited think of دَحاهَا

As the words of creator are recited in tune of singing.

Bogus if this was about recitation then Muslims would have agreed on is the word ملك in Surat al-Fatiha مَلِكِ or is it مالِكِ this was about correcting poor Arabic spelling by your Allah

How come you did not know that?

If the letter is emphasises longer then there is letter aleph in between it.

Wrong again the alif is there because it is the correct Arabic! Your Allah could not spell a perfect Arabic word!

You are and you must pardon me ignorant

The fact that you say editing was made shows that you do not know that verse of quran are recited repeatedly in prayers in form of tune.

The fact that you are saying that this was made due recitation is bogus and shows that you have no clue about the Quranic rasm and the Muslim Masora (oh the Masora? ask your Mullah to tell you what it means)

Shame on you

Some letter are emphasied longer. Try doing a video search on youtube to understand about recitation of Quran.

Why do you make a fool of yourself tell me

Then I wrote

[[Or The earth with this (creation) he made it like a ball (round)Then your Allah would have been right but he was in the habit of reading Ptolemy what can I tell you]]

Then this is his answer

You need to read the following verse as well. It is due to the might of the Creator earth surface is flat and spread out . Unlike the surface of moon, Also this allow for waters, mountains and cows to wander throughout the flat surface of earth unlike the surface of moon being waterless and without livestocks. The verse let the readers thinks about what the creator had provided to them. No issue really

Hello: your Allah is saying that the earth is flat and he has no clue about the chronology of his own creation and he cannot even spell perfect Arabic words and to add insult to injury you have no clue about the Quranic rasm and you have the audacity to tell us readers to read translations of the Qur'an when we can read it in Arabic

Oh I'm not done with you

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