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We chill out where you freeze- Part 2 (DEAR ANNE M)

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Submitted by Faisal (Pakistan), Sep 7, 2006 at 03:21

Dear Anne M,

Peace be on you.

Not only in my comments (7-8 articles floating on this web) did I give you the exact verses (written in english) but also the references. So far, you have NOT been able to reply to even a single contradiction that I mentioned in the Bible. And you come up with new comments. You need to reply to my comments first. Few of the comments, out of the many in my articles, I give again.

Bible speaks about shape of the earth, in the Gospel of Mathew, Chapter No.4, Verse No.8, it says - ‘The devil took him… that is Jesus Christ, to an exceedingly high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the earth and its glory.' ­­­­­Gospel of Luke Chapter No.4, Verse No.5…‘The devil took him to a high mountain and showed him the glory of all the kingdoms of the world.' ­

AnneM, even if you go to the tallest mountain, the highest mountain in the world… that is Mount Everest, and supposedly, you have a very good vision, and can see for thousands of miles together - Yet, you will not be able to see all the kingdoms of the world - Because today we know, the earth is spherical. You will not be able to see the kingdom, of the opposite side of the world. The only way you will be able to see, if the earth was flat. ­­­­­­That is the description what the Bible gives…‘The earth is flat.' ­­­­­­

Furthermore, this same description is repeated in the book of Daniel, Chapter No.4, Verse No.10 and 11. ­­­­­­It says… ‘In a dream, that the tree grew up into the heaven, and there when the tree grew up into the heaven, it grew up so much, that every one from all the ends of the earth, they could see the tree. ­­­­­­This is only possible, if the shape of the earth was flat. ­­­­­­If a tree is very long and the shape of the earth was flat, only then it is possible.­­­­­­ Today, it is a universal fact that the world is spherical - You will never be able to see the tree, however much long it is, from the opposite side of the spherical shape of the earth. ­­­­­­

Furthermore if you read, it is mentioned in the 1st Chronicles, Chapter No.16, Verse No.30, that… ‘The earth does not move.' ­­­­­­ The same is repeated in the book of Psalms, Chapter No.93, Verse No.1, that… ‘Almighty God has stabilized the earth.' - That means the earth does not move. ­­­­­­And in the New International Version, it says that… ‘God has established and stopped the movement of the earth as though…' ­­­­­­

Moreover, the bible contradicts itself in many places. I give one example from my previous comment:

Bible says, in the book of Hebrews, Ch. No.1 Verses No.10 and 11, and the book of Psalms, Ch. No.102, Verse No.25 and 26, that…‘Almighty God created the Heavens and the Earth, and they will perish.' Exactly opposite is mentioned in the book of Ecclesiastics, Ch. No.1, Verse No.4, and the book of Psalms, Ch. No.78, Verse No.69, that… ‘The earth will abide forever.'

Don't you think both of these statements are mutually exclusive. If one holds true, the other is NOT the word of God Almighty. What does your logic say? Even if one verse is disproved to be the Word of God, the same can be said of the complete Bible.

It is mentioned in the 2nd Kings, Chapter No.8, Verse No.26, it says that… ‘Ahezia… that Ahezia, he was 22 years old, when he began to reign.' ­­­­­­2nd Chronicles, Chapter No. 22, Verse No. 2, says that… ‘He was 42 years old, when he began to reign. ­­­­­­Was he 22 years old, or was he 42 years old? - Numerical contradiction. ­­­­­­Further more, in 2nd Chronicles, Chapter No. 21, Verse No. 20, it says that… ‘Joaram, the father of Ahezia, he reigned at the age of 32 - and he reigned for 8 years, and he died at the age of 40. ­­­­­Immediately… Ahezia became the next ruler at the age of 42. ­­­­­­ Father died at the age of 40 - Immediately son takes over, who is at the age of 42. ­­­­­­How can a son, be two years older than the father?' ­­­­­­OR can he be???

I hope I have made some clear statements. I would also like to ask that why in your articles you ask people to search the web (go online) and read about Islam. If you really want to help in bringing about the truth (if you are not biased), then atleast you can ask people to read the Qur'an and make their judgemets for themselves. I did not go online to research the bible; I bought the KJV and RSV. So if you have an open heart then atleast ask the seekers to go to the original authentic source, that is Qur'an. Even when I made an invitation (Daa'wa) to my christian brothers I gave them a copy of the Glorious Qur'an along with the translation.

We can always differ but we should not play foul.

Sister AnneM, May you find truth in all its beauty.

Glorious Qur'an says in Surah Isra Chapter.17, Verse No.81, ‘When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood is by its nature bound to perish.'
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