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in response to reader comment: You are not reading the Quran entirely aren't you?

Submitted by altamash (India), Sep 25, 2006 at 06:56

yes i m reading Qur an and understand better then u. first u should understand the way of God. he never allows his people to sit and watch those people who lie in the name of God whom the book was revealed and yet they deviated from truth. they permitted what was forbidden by your God. and they forbid what was allowed them and attribute it to God.

listen your God is not blind God who sees but cant reply to those who write the book with their own hand and then say it's from God. yeah God surely encourages his beliver to fight against such people. and read the verse carefully. it doesnt say to kill the people of book it says to fight with them for truth to fight them for their wrong works.

yes Qur an says dont make jews and christian your friend.coz they are friend of each other

it does'nt mean that they will know something which is not known by us. what will they say to us when v muslims stands with truth when v know the truth which God has revealed to the final prophet. and the truth of God is far more superior than your intellectual lie.

and what God says is truth and it is truth that jews and christians will never think good for us untill v follow them. rem coz they will never think good for muslims. not coz they know truth.

let me give you an example: when jews attack lebanon and killed 1100 innocent muslim coz ther 2 soldiers were kidnapped (not killed) and what bush replied "they had right to attack for defence"

how just is it that you killed 1100 innocent muslims for your two kidnaped soldiers ( and God know alone were they really kidnapped). this is what which means friends of each other .

what truth are you christians talking about "bible"? you want v muslims to believe in bible as Gods word?

let me tell you that islam is the only non christian faith which makes an article to believe in jesus christ . v believe that he was a christ . v believe that he was born without father. and v believe he is one of the mightiest prophet of God and v believe in injeel which was revealed to him and present bible is the corrupted form of injeel. and every prophet brought the same basic faith that is la ila ha illallah

that there is only one God concept of tawheed (belive in one God without any image). same was brought by moses jesus etc and all other prophets and later on the followers of all prophets got deviated and prophet muhammed (s a w) is the last prophet with a last revelation. and islam is the complet ereligion From God and God has granted the security of Qur an and islam . coz its the last revelation and prophet (s a w) is the last prophet of god no new prophet will come and no new revelation will come and no new teaching will come and no new upgrade will be done by God. that why God has granted the security of islam and Qur and to be there between mankind for guidance and to distinguish between right and wrong.

and all other book has been changed by its followers and God has not granted them security coz previous revelation was not the final revelation and previous prophet were not the final prophet.

if you read bible it talks about

Sexual intercourse between two persons who are too closely related." (New Collins Dictionary). For example, between father and daughter, son and mother, father-in-law and daughter-in-law, brother and sister, etc. INCEST IN GOD'S BOOK (?) BETWEEN A FATHER AND HIS DAUGHTERS: (a) "That night they (both the daughters of Lot) gave him (their father Lot) wine to drink and the older daughter had INTERCOURSE with him ... "The next day the older daughter said to her sister, I slept with him last night. now let's get him drunk again tonight, and you sleep with him. Then each of us will have a child by our father. So that night they got him drunk and the younger daughter had INTERCOURSE with him ... "In this way both of Lot's daughters became PREGNANT by their father. " GENESIS 19:33-35 (From the "Good News Bible- In Today's English"). In the older Versions, like the King James and the Roman Catholic Versions, "SEXUAL INTERCOURSE" is vaguely described as "COLLECTING THE SEED OF OUR FATHER." INCEST BETWEEN MOTHER AND SON: (b) "While Jacob (Israel) was living in the land, Reuben (his firstborn, his eldest son) had SEXUAL

INTERCOURSE with Bilhah, his father's concubine. GENESIS 35:22. The older Versions of the Bible, use the word, "lay" for SEXUAL INTERCOURSE. INCEST BETWEEN FATHER-IN-LAW AND DAUGHTER-IN-LAW: (c) "When Judah saw her (Tamar, his daughter-in-law), he thought she was a prostitute, because she had covered her face. "He went over to her at the side of the road and said, "ALL RIGHT, HOW MUCH DO YOU CHARGE?" (He did not know that she was his daughter-in-law) {The words in parenthesis i.e. within brackets from He did not know to daughter-in-law are not in the original Hebrew manuscripts. They are the editors g loss.}

"She said, what will you give me?" (To have sex with me) 'He answered, I WILL SEND YOU A YOUNG GOAT FROM MY FLOCK "She said, "All right, if you will give me something to keep as a pledge until you send the ,goat. ' . . He gave them (the pledges) to her. Then had INTERCOURSE, and she became pregnant GENESIS 38: 15-18 (Quoted from the "Good News Bible"). CONCUBINE and WIFE are synonymous terms in the Bible. Look for it in the index under "KETURAH" (the third wife of Abraham). Out of this incestuous relationship between a father-in-law and his daughter-in-law, twins were born, who were destined to become the great-grand-fathers of Jesus Christ see Matthew 1:3; "And Judas begat Phares and Zarah of Thamar . . . INCEST AND RAPE BETWEEN BROTHER AND SISTER (d) " . . he took hold of her (Thamar, his sister, not to be confused with Tamar in "c" above,, and said unto her, Come lie with me (have sex with me), my sister. "And she answered him, Nay, my brother (Amnon, one of the sons of David, the man after God's own heart) do not force me . . . "But he would not listen to her, and since he was stronger than she was, he overpowered her and RAPED her (his sister). " 2 Samuel 13:5-14 WHOLESALE RAPE AND INCEST BETWEEN SON AND HIS MOTHERS! (e) So they set up a tent for Absalom (another son of King David) on the palace roof, and in the sight of everyone, Absalom went in and had INTERCOURSE with his father's concubines " 2 SAMUELS 16:22

". . . In the sight of every one" is rendered in the King James Version as "in the sight of all Israel." This is a fulfillment of God's promise to David the King:

"Thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee (David) out of thine own house, and I will take THY WIVES before thine eyes, and give them unto thy neighbor (actually thy son) and he shall lie (have sexual intercourse) with thy wives in the sight of sun (for the whole world to watch the fun).

For thou didst it secretly (with Bath-Sheba the wife of Uriah): but I will do this thing before ALL Israel, and before the sun." 2 Samuel 12:11-12

You can well guess where "Penthouse" and "Playboy" got their inspiration from. Where from if not from the Book of Books?

For other various types of incest see LEVITICUS 18:8-18. 20:11-14 and 17-21. Concubine seems synonymous to the word wife in the Bible. Look for this reference in index under "Keturah" the third wife of Abraham.


this what u people says Gods word? this is the truth you are talking about? this is what u believe ? this is what you attribute to God? shame full woe to those who write book with their own hand and then say it is from Allah.

such words dont suit in Gods book it suit in book of pornography

and you said that

c the casesof rape in your so called Gods word

Brother rapes and commits incest with his sister— (a) Howbeit he (Amnon, one of the sons of David) would not hearken unto her this sister Tamar's voice: but, being stronger than she, forced (raped) her, and LAY (had sex) with her." 2 SAMUEL 13:14 Son commits incest and rapes his mothers wholesale! (b) "So they spread Absalom (another of the sons of David) a tent upon the top of the house; and Absalom WENT IN (had intercourse) unto his father's concubines (same as "wives", see KETURAH in the index) in the sight of ISRAEL" 2 SAMUEL 16:22

and you said "Everything from having sex with Slaves "

its nowhere told in Qur an but for your kind information it is told in bible Sanctioned by God— "ye, shall take them (the slaves) as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them (the slaves) for a possession, they shall be ,your BONDMEN (slaves) for ever . . . LEVITICUS 25:46

this is what God has encouraged his believers to fight against . and you use the word "Murder"

but the reference shown by you says"Koran 9:29

and if you read Qur an you'll come to know that God has encouraged believers to have debate with esp ppl of the book many place for eg its says"come to the common terms as between us and you"

and many place Quran addresses the ppl of book. giving proof

and what u quote from Genesis 16

it is not muhammed(s a w) it is bush. let me tell u that out of the world poppulation of muslims 82% muslims are non arabs. means 82% muslims r non arab and believe in muhammed (s a w)

i think this is enough

and for your kind information v drink the same zam zam water which God has gifted v muslims through prophet ismail (a s)

the holy Ka'ba built by the prophet Abraham (PBUH) and his son Ishmael (PBUH) is in Mecca.

The name Mecca (Makkah) is mentioned in the Holy Qur'an in 48:24. Another name for Mecca is Bakka, depending on the dialect of the tribe: this is also mentioned once, in Sura 3:96

"Verily, the first house (of worship) appointed for mankind was that in Bakka (Mecca), full of blessing, and guidance for all people." Amazingly enough, this word Bakka is mentioned by the prophet David (PBUH) in the Bible:

"Who passing through the valley of Baca make it a well, the rain also filleth the pools." (Psalm 84:6)

The well here is the well known well of Zam-Zam, still present now, close to the Ka'bah; after thousands of years.

what duubt will you add in my mind . if God dont want your false claim to hurt me . Let me add more doubt to your mind.and that s truth. in your bible so called book of God use bad word like bastard . This word occurs in the Bible THREE times (a) "The BASTARD shall not enter the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation . . . DEUTERONOMY 23:2 (b) "And a BASTARD shall dwell in Ashdod . .ZECHARIAH 9:6 (c) "But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then ye are BASTARDS and not sons. " HERREWS 12:8

and v muslims are the chosen people

you ll hardly find a christian circumcised if you are a man, i m asking you, are you circumcised? but v muslims are all circumcised.

In the Christian Bible. (a) the burden upon Arabia" ISAIAH 21:13. "Burden" = responsibility. God has imposed upon the Muslims, the duty to deliver His Message to mankind. ISAIAH mentions this after having seen the vision of a chariot of asses and a chariot of camels (ISAIAH 21:7) The chariot of asses turned out to be Jesus (PBUH) who entered Jerusalem riding on two donkeys (Matthew 21:7) Who then was of the "Chariot of Camels"?

bible is a book with cases such as incest rape bad words contidiction and many thing more

any physicist tells us that what ever you read has an edict on your mind which comes out in a form of act

you read junky bible you think junky and you behave junky and u think the pure char. of prophet muhammed(s a w) in the light of your junky mind.

but still God forgive those who ask forgivness and i ask u to read shahada and startt the journey of paradise. one statement of yours make me think something"If I study islam anymore I might accidentally perform the Shahada." this shows that you know in your heart that Qur an is a revelation of God almighty and islam is the chosen religion of God .you know this truth in your heart

but you are pressuring your mind to believe it wrong but you r afraid that one day truth will burst out.

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last day, nor hold the forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jiziyah with willing submission. And feel themselves subdued."CIRCUMCISION: A perpetual pact with God— (a) "He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money (your slaves), MUST needs be circumcised and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an EVERLASTING covenant. " GENESIS 17:13 (b) The uncircumcised to be "CUT OFF" (to be killed).GENESIS 17:14

yeah it says to fight and you know i m right now, fighting with you for truth. this is what it means


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