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Submitted by Ridwan (Australia), Aug 3, 2007 at 05:58

Have you seen anywhere in the Bible that Jesus says "Worship me, I am your god"? no then why do you worship him. But in the Quran, Allah clearly states that worship me etc...

In the Bible, Jesus was sent to fix the flaws of mankind, look, just say I'm a carpenter, i make a table, I dont have to become a table to find out and fix the flaws of the table. So if he was God, he doesnt have to turn into his creation and get himself crucified, God is greater than that, in Islam we cant even imagine who Allah is. Muhammed (S) was a Prophet, which is true because hes made many prophecies, like the conquering of the Persians years prior to that event, or conquering of Rome and Egypt. Or the signs of The Day Of Judgement :
(And dont den these because these are all true and his happening in Western Society Today)

  1. Music and musical instruments will be found in every home.
  2. People will indulge in homosexuality.
  3. There will be an abundance of illegitimate children.
  4. There will be an abundance of critics, tale-carriers, back- biters and taunters in society.
  5. People will establish ties with strangers and sever relations with their near and dear ones.
  6. Hypocrites will be in control of the affairs of the community and evil, immoral people will be at the helm of business establishments.
  7. The Masjid will be decorated, but the hearts of the people will be devoid of guidance.
  8. The courtyards of Masjids will be built beautifully and high mimbars (pulpits) will be erected.
  9. Gangsters and evil people will prevail.
  10. Various wines will be consumed excessively.
  11. When the offspring become a cause of grief and anger (for their parents).
These are all true, are you telling me Muhammed (S) was a liar when he said so many truths, and he was also known as truthful even before becoming a prophet, he could never lie about Allah as he wasnt looking for power, wealth etc, we see from his life he led the most simple life. Even Jews knew (including one of his uncles) that he is a Prophet, but didnt become a Muslim fearing he will lose his high status among the Quraysh. And all his actions always lead to good things, even physically,
The way he used to eat, crouching, with the right hand with three fingers, had all its benefits.
The way he used to sleep, on his right-side, had it's benefits.
The way he cleaned his teeth (Miswak) has more benefits than that of T/paste and brush.
The way he used to deal in business, had it's benefits.
The way he did all his things all had its benefits.
And in the Quran it tells us to follow him, if Muhammad has bought nothing but good.

We believe Jesus was a prophet of Allah because of the ways Muhammed (S) described him, even Priests themselves today say that the Jesus in Islam is approximately 3 times more accurate than to the Jesus in the Bible, so if Islam is more accurate, then it is more logical to believe something a lot more vivid or clear. And that in the prophecy in the Bible says that a prophet will come and will be like Moses, it explicitly refers to Muhammed (s)
The unlikes of Jesus to Moses:
1. Jesus is a God, but Moses was not.
2. Jesus died for the sins of the world, Moses did not.
3. Jesus wen to hell for three days, Moses did not.
The likes of Mohammed to Moses:

1. Moses had a father and and a mother, Muhammed (s) as well.
2. Moses was born the natural way, Muhammed (s) as well.
3. Moses got married and had children, Muhammed (s) also got married and had children.
4. Moses and Muhammed (s) were accepted by their people in their very lifetime
5. No doubt the Jews gave endless trouble to Moses and they murmured in the wilderness, but as a nation, they acknowledged that Moses was a Messenger of God sent to them. The Arabs too made Muhummed's life imposs ible. He suffered very badly at their hands. After 13 years of preaching in Mecca, he had to emigrate from the city of his birth. But before his demise, the Arab nation as a whole accepted him as the Messenger of Allah. But according to the Bible: 'He (Jesus) CAME UNTO HIS OWN, BUT HIS OWN RECEIVED HIM NOT.' (John 1:11). And even today, ofter two thousand years, his people- the Jews, as a whole, have rejected him.
7. Moses and Muhummed brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Moses not only gave the Ten Commandments to the Israelites, but a very comprehensive ceremonial law for the guidance of his people. Muhummed comes to a people steeped in barbarism and ignorance. They married their step-m others; they buried their daughters alive; drunkenness, adultery, idolatry, and gambling were the order of the day. Gibbon describe the Arabs before Islam in his "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire", THE HUMAN BRUTE, ALMOST WITHOUT SENSE, IS POORLY DISTINGUISHED FROM THE REST OF THE ANIMAL CREATI ON.' There was hardly anything to distinguish between the "man" and the "animal" of the time; they were animals in human form.
8. From this abject barbarism, Muhummed elevated them, in the words of Thomas Carlysle, 'into torch-bearers of light and learning.' 'TO THE ARAB NATION IT WAS AS A BIRTH FROM DARKNESS INTO LIGHT. ARABIA FIRST BECAME ALIVE BY MEANS OF IT. A POOR SHEPHERD PEOPLE, ROAMING UNNOTICED IN ITS DESERTS SINCE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD. SEE, THE UNNOTICED BECOMES WORLD NOTABLE, THE SMALL HAS GROWN WORLD-GREAT. WITHIN ONE CENTURY AFTERWARDS ARABIA WAS AT GRANADA ON ONE HAND AND AT DELHI ON THE OTHER. GLANCING IN VALOUR AND SPLENDOUR, AND THE LIGHT OF GENIUS, ARABIA SHINES OVER A GREA SECTION OF THE WORLD. ...' The fact is that Muhummed gave his people a Law and Order they never had before.

9. "As regards Jesus, when the Jews felt suspicious of him that he might be an impostor with designs to pervert their teachings, Jesus took pains to assure them that he had not come with a new religion - no new laws and no new regulations. I quote his own words: 'THINK NOT THAT IAM COME TO DESTROY THE LAW, OR THE PROPHETS: IAM NOT COME TO DESTROY, BUT TO FULFIL. FOR VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU, TILL HEAVEN AND EARTH PASS, ONE JOT OR ONE TITLE SHALL IN NO WISE PASS FROM THE LAW, TILL ALL BE FULFILLED.'(Mathew 5:17-18). In other words he had not come with any new laws or regulation he came only to fulfil the old law. This what he gave the Jews to understand- unless he was speaking with the tongue in his cheek trying to bluff the Jews into accepting him as a man of God and by subterfuge trying to ram a new religion down their throats. No! This Messenger of God would never resort to such fo ul means to subvert the Religion of God. He himself fulfilled the laws. He observed the commandments of Moses, and he respected the Sabbath. At no time did a single Jew point a finger at him to say, 'why don't you fast' or 'why don't you wash your hands before you break bread',which charges they al wasy levied against his disciples, but never against Jesus. This is because as a good Jew he honoured the laws of the prophets who preceded him. In short, he had created no new religion and had brought no new law like Moses and Muhummed.

10. "Both Moses and Muhummed died natural deaths, but according to Christianity, Jesus was violently killed on the cross.(10) Is this true?" The dominee said: "Yes." I averred: "Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses."

11. "Moses and Muhummed both lie buried in earth, but according to you, Jesus in heaven. Therefore Jesus is not like Moses but Muhummed is like Moses."
If we look up any Bible which has a concordance or cross-references, the we will find in the marginal note where the words "the Prophet", or "that Prophet" occur in John 1:25, that these words refer to the prophecy of Deuteronomy 18:15 and 18. And that 'that prophet' - 'the prophet like Moses' - "L IKE UNTO THEE", we have proved through overwhelming evidence that he was MUHUMMED and not Jesus!

We Muslims are not denying that Jesus was the "Messiah", which word is translated as "Christ".(16) We are not contesting the "thousand and one prophecies" which the Christians claim abound in the Old Testament foretelling the coming of the Messiah. What we say is that Deuteronomy 18:18 does NOT ref er to Jesus Christ but it is an explicit prophecy about the Holy Prophet MUHUMMED!" Jesus was definitely not god, but a Prophet, who came to fulfill the prophets before him.

I dont know if you can read this, but please reply.

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