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Submitted by Servant of Christ (United States), Aug 13, 2007 at 15:54

My thanks for another response!

14- ...then created the chewed lump of flesh (mudga) into bones, then covered the bones with flesh (lahm)...
23-The Believers, 14

259- Look further at the bones, how We construct them and then cover with flesh (lahm).
2-The Cow, 259

Is this written in the Qu'ran? It doesn't say anything about the size.

Okay, he lived in the desert, how did he know how the movement of the sea or the ocean was, how did he know about snow,

19- He has let free the two seas meeting together. (fresh and salty)
20- Between them there is a barrier which they do not transgress.
55-Gracious, 19-20

Salt and fresh water usually don't mix. The Bible already says something like that.

53- He is the One who has set free the two seas; one is sweet and palatable, and the other is salty and bitter. And He made a barrier between them, a partition that is forbidden to be passed.
25-The Distinquisher, 53

Could this be about the Jewish Sea of Galilee and the Dead Sea?

Also, if you look at Muhammad (s) family tree, you will see that, yes he is related to most of the prophets, including Jesus.

How is this possible when the Jewish race was strict on marrying other Jews.

Old Testament prophets said that the Messiah would be God.

SIGNS IN THE OLD TESTAMENT

146- The people of the Book know this as they know their own sons; but some of them conceal the truth, knowingly.
2-The Cow, 146

46- Some among the Jews distort the words out of context and say with a twist of their tongues...
4-The Women, 46

41- They change the words from their right places and say "If you are given this, accept it, but if you are given anything different, beware."
5-The Feast, 41

Tell me why the Qu'ran, a book written centuries after Muhammed's death, is more reliable than the Bible. The Dead Sea Scrolls show that the Old Testament manuscripts were properly copied. Jesus himself made the claim that he was God.

Old Testament prophets said that the Messiah would be God.

All Prophets have Professed Islam.

The Quran accepts that all the prophets descending from Adam are Muslim (submitter). The word "Islam" has also the connotation of "peace." The Jewish word "Shalom" and the Arabic word "Salam" stem from the same root.

You just said earlier that all the words of the prophets are corrupted. Furthermore, Hebrew and Arabic are two very similar tongues so two words sounding similar doesn't mean much. Islam means submission I thought.

As for the prophet who prophesies peace (shalom), when the word of that prophet comes to pass, then it will be known that the Lord has truly sent the prophet.
Jeremiah 28, 9

Once more, you said that these words are corrupted. Most importantly, the passage is referring to how Jeremiah was rebuking Hananiah the false prophet. Not a good passage to use since Hananiah was proved to be a false prophet after his prophecy of peace failed.

The word "peace" in this translation has the same root as the word "Islam." The two prophets, Christ and Muhammad, who came after Moses, announced 1) that there was one God; 2) to worship only one God; 3) To believe in all messengers of God; 4) that man was to believe in the Day of Judgment; 5) that man should lead an honest life, 6) that man should not kill his kind or commit theft, and 7) that man should protect the needy and the orphans, etc. According to the expressions used in the Old Testament, the proof of prophethood was whether the message brought was one of peace (Islam) and whether his word turned out to be true. Thanks to the message brought by Muhammad, billions of people have believed in what he said and have loved God and believed in the Omniscience and Omnipotence of God and that the truth of the revelations in the Book transmitted by him came to be demonstrated by the ensuing historical events and developments in science. Nowhere in the Old Testament can we come across a statement to the effect that Moses is the last prophet.

Jesus Christ claimed to be God. Your holy text even says that Jesus was without sin so that means he could not have lied. And as I said in the previous passage, the only proof of prophethood would be a prophecy that would be fulfilled. Obadiah and Nahum both prophesied war and calamity and it came to pass. And billions of people have loved God and Jesus through Christianity so let's not compare that way.

And I never said Moses was the last prophet.

Someone who believes in the Bible can easily deduce from its contents the evidence of Muhammad's prophethood. Moreover, the Old Testament's criterion for the recognition of a prophet was his coming with the prophecy of peace, i.e., Islam in its etymological sense, which word came to be integrated with the name of Muhammad.

Peace was not the criteria prophethood. As I said earlier, the passage you referred to dealt with a FALSE prophet known as Hananiah. And lastly, Muhammad could not have been the Prophet because he was Jewish.

6- For thus says the Lord of Hosts: "Yet, once more, in a little while, I will shake the heavens and the earth and the sea and the dry land.
7- And I will shake all nations so that the treasures (himada) of all nations shall come in, and I will fill this house with glory, says the Lord of Hosts.
8- The silver is mine, and the gold is mine, declares the Lord of Hosts.
9- The latter glory of this house shall be greater than the former, says the Lord of Hosts. And in this place I will give peace (shalom), declares the Lord of Hosts"
Haggai 2, 6-9

The Hebrew word "himada" mentioned under verse 7 of Haggai stems from the same root as H-M-D in the Arabic language which is the root of the name "Muhammad," carrying more or less the same meaning. Thus the name of the Prophet or the meaning of his name is mentioned with reference to a glorious event that was to take place in the future. What can be a more glorious event than the advent of Muhammad -who came after the Old Testament- and whose message announced God's existence to billions? Remember that the word "shalom" (peace) in verse 9 comes from the same root as the word Islam.

Recall that Muhammad could not have been the prophet. I do not know Hebrew but I know that those who try to say that Muhammad's name is found encoded in the Hebrew language fail when the same Hebrew word is applied to other passages.

THE CHOSEN SERVANT FROM AMONG THE PEOPLE OF KEDAR WILL BREAK THE IDOLS

Accounts related to future events in Isaiah make allusions to Muhammad as Prophet. Accounts related to the future in the Old Testament (Isaiah, 42) are in perfect conformity with Muhammad's ways, in that he broke the idols (8), that he established justice upon earth during his lifetime (3 and 4), that he received the message from Gabriel, the Holy Spirit (1), had ideal ethical values (2-3), shed light over the souls of men who had been blinded (6 and 7), carried over new messages he had received to mankind (10), and was a descendant of a community that had descended from the line of Kedar (11).

Isaiah 42 talks about Jesus Christ.

1- Behold my servant, whom I uphold, my chosen, in whom my soul delights; I have put my Spirit upon him; he will bring forth justice to the nations.
2- He will not cry aloud or lift up his voice, or make it heard in the street.
3- A bruised breed he will not break, and a faintly burning wick he will not quench; he will faithfully bring forth justice.
4- He will not grow faint or be discouraged till he has established justice in the earth; and the coastlands wait for his law.
5- Thus says God, the Lord who created the heavens and stretched them out, who spread out the earth and what comes from it, who gives breath to the people on it and spirit to those who walk in it:
6- I am the Lord; I have called you in righteousness; I will take you by the hand and keep you; I will give you as a covenant for the people, a light for the nations.
7- To open the eyes that are blind, to bring out the prisoners from the dungeon, from the prison those who sit in darkness.
8- I am the Lord; that is my name; my glory I give to no other; nor my praise to carved idols.
9- Behold, the former things have come to pass, and new things I now declare; before they spring forth I tell you of them.
10- Sing to the Lord a new song, his praise from the end of the earth, you who go down to the sea and all that fills it, the coastlands and their inhabitants.
11- Let the desert and its cities lift up their voice, the villages that Kedar inhabits; let the habitants of Sela sing for joy, let them shout from the top of the mountains.
Isaiah 42, 1-11

Certainly, Jesus Christ did not break a bruised reed and he provided the New Covenant. He opened the eyes of the blind.

So why is it that Kedar is so special and not Sela or the coastlands.

A careful perusal of these verses may suggest to their reader that allusions to Muhammad are plain. What is still remarkable is that these statements would turn out to come true. This prediction was not made for the time of Isaiah but for later, as mentioned in verse 9. It is interesting to note that in the 17th verse of Isaiah it is said that idolaters would be put to shame, an event that had come true by the revelation of the Quran.

70- O people of the Book! Why do you reject the signs of God of which you are witnesses?
71- O people of the Book! Why do you clothe the truth with falsehood, and conceal the truth, knowingly?
3-The Family of Imran, 70-71

Idolatry is wrong, I agree. Here are several reasons why I believe Jesus Christ is God and that Christianity is right:

1. The Old Testament prophets prophesied the Messiah as being God. The textual manuscripts are shown to be accurate after the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls.

2. The Resurrection of Jesus Christ. I will elaborate later if you want.

3. 600 years before Muhammad came, Paul prophesied the arrival of false beliefs that would have some of the truth but not all of it:

But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! (Galatians 1:8 NIV) emphasis added

The passage is harsh but it remains true. Paul told us to be careful about an angel from heaven (Gabriel in Islam) telling a gospel different than the one Christianity teaches. And this is the truth. Islam states that Gabriel came to Muhammad and that Jesus Christ was not God's Son and was not crucified.

There is overwhelming evidence in Scripture contrary to this.

Furthermore, Muhammad could not have been a prophet or the Prophet because prophets are all Jewish.

Thank you for your time, brother.

May Allah help you and guide you.

Once again, I thank you. And I hope we can continue our conversation.

God Bless

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