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Submitted by Servant of Christ (United States), Mar 4, 2007 at 22:01

Between 3000 and 2500bce 4 dynasties ruled Egypt and no big flood happened which wiped out Egypt. Shall I start talking about the Indus valley which has history of more than 5000 years?

Spare me the those parts please. I am Chinese myself and I hear of all these 'artifacts' dating to 5000 B.C. My question is how were they dated? The 4 dynasties of Egypt, how do we know they are whatever B.C.? But remember, the Flood dating is still uncertain.

My arguments are stronger than yours.

Sadly, I fail to see that. Those prophecies point out the supernatural yet you deny them by focusing on another issue which is still uncertain.

Then maybe could explain to me why there are:

These responses show how little you know about Christianity. I wouldn't be surprised if you grabbed this from an anti-Christian site.

  • two creation stories
  • Two descriptions of the Abrahamic covenant.
  • Two stories of the naming of Isaac.
  • Two instances where Moses extracted water from two different rocks at two different locations called Meribah.
  • Two accounts of God changing Jacob's name to Israel
  • Two stories of Jacob travelling to Mesopotamia
two creation stories

The Hebrew form of writing is a chronological view from the distance and then a great focus in detail. That is why Genesis 1 talks about the creation in 7 days and Genesis 2 goes to the sixth day and gives us great detail how man was created. The above statement you made ignores the Hebrew writing style.

Two descriptions of the Abrahamic covenant.

I am unfamiliar with this one. Go ahead and point the references (in the future heed this to add clarification).

Two instances where Moses extracted water from two different rocks at two different locations called Meribah.

I agree with your statement until the part that says "called Meribah".
And he called the place Massah [a] and Meribah [b] because the Israelites quarreled and because they tested the LORD saying, "Is the LORD among us or not?" (Exodus 17:7) NIV

One location is Meribah and the other Massah. Meribah was the location where Moses disobeyed God and Massah was the place where Moses obeyed God. No contradiction.

Two accounts of God changing Jacob's name to Israel

Just like there are many 'accounts' where God repeats his promises to the Patriarchs again and again.

Soon I will.

Ok, for now, Jesus loves you ^_^.

Look at the verses again:

9 Joab reported the number of the fighting men to the king: In Israel there were eight hundred thousand able-bodied men who could handle a sword, and in Judah five hundred thousand. 2 Samuel 24:9

5 Joab reported the number of the fighting men to David: In all Israel there were one million one hundred thousand men who could handle a sword, including four hundred and seventy thousand in Judah. 1 Chronicle 21:5

Can't you see that there is a big contradiction there?

And you weave a big circular reasoning around my reasoning. You're not using a word for word translation. I think you are using either an idea for idea or balanced translation which aren't concerned with specific details that the Hebrew language implement. The original Hebrew language uses 'men of honor' for 2 Samuel 24:9. Therefore it is not unreasonable to say that 2 Samuel refers to a group of troops with battle experience. The Hebrews were not that stupid to have such a blatant contradiction right before them...

You don't understand. I am saying that YHWH was worshipped has pagan God before the Israelites took him has there own God.

If they took them as their own god this would mean they would take his meaning, stories, and character along with them. And let me repeat myself, the theory that you are referring tries to find a similarity between YHWH and TWO PAGAN GODS. It's not one pagan god, it's two of them that are nothing remotely similar to the Israelite God. Somehow the skeptists think that the Israelites borrowed two gods (sky and fertility I think?) to make YHWH. This far beyond the Hindu and Buddhaism.


Here are some questions that you can answer:

1. What is Judeo-Christianity?

A term for the faiths of Judaism and Christianity.

2. Why is it not Judeo-Christo-Islamic?

Islamic faith has no support from the original Hebrew scriptures. While the Messiah, whom Christians say is Jesus, has lots of basis from the Hebrew Bible. Not to mention the Qu'ran contradicts the Old Testament several times.

3. Jesus' tomb has been discovered. Do you think it is Jesus' tomb?

http://www.newsargus.com/news/archives/2007/03/04/jesus_tomb_find_claim_draws_skepticism/index.shtml

Nah, many of these stories pop up. Jesus was a very common name in those days. It's very odd for the real Jesus to be put in a random tomb. Even the Jews today say that the disciples stole the body of Christ from a rich man's tomb. Yet here we have a body and a marked tomb that is not so rich.

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