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Validity for the Quran, Hadith, and the Prophecies?

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Submitted by Servant of Christ (United States), Feb 4, 2007 at 22:11

Because Jesus was God son and he was different from us. Jesus still lived a short live on Earth and he had no descandants.


He indeed was different than us. But he was also man. He wrapped up his divinity in the shreds of humanity. There is nothing in the Bible that makes us think that Jesus on earth was handsome and nor does anything in Isaiah 53 lets us think Jesus would live long. His descendants our us if you read:

He shall see His [spiritual] offspring, He shall prolong His days, and the will and pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand. (Isaiah 53:10) Amplified Bible

The Jews of those days accepted Isaiah 53 as a genuine prophecy of the Messiah and nicknamed this chapter, the Suffering Messiah.


Hadith (Saying) from the Sunan Abu Dawud Volume, The Book of Fierce Battles - The Gathering of all the Nations against Islam.

Hadith (Saying) from the Sunan Abu Dawud Volume, The Book of Fierce Battles - The Gathering of all the Nations against Islam.

Hadith (Saying) from the Sunan Abu Dawud Volume, The Book of Fierce Battles - The Gathering of all the Nations against Islam.

Here is the prophecy:

Hadith #4297:

Narrated Thauban: "The Prophet peace be upon him said: 'The nations shall gather and team up against you (i.e., Muslims) as the predators gather and team up against their preys. A questioner asked: 'Is it because of us being low in numbers at that day?' The Prophet replied: 'No, you that day shall be in great numbers, but you will be as powerless as the foam of the water on the surface of the river, and Allah shall remove any fear from your enemies toward you, and He shall put in your hearts a corruption.' A questioner asked: 'O Apostle of Allah, what is the corruption?' The Prophet replied: 'The love of life's amusements and the fear of death.' (Translation of Sunan Abu Dawud, The Book of Fierce Battles - The Gathering of all Nations against Islam, Book 37, Number 4297)"

That is very vague to be honest. It simply says that they will put fear into their enemies. Who wouldn't be afraid on a battlefield, especially after being held captive.


The Prophet predicted the conquest of many important cities

According to authentic narrations, the Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, gave his community the glad tidings that they would conquer Damascus, Jerusalem, Iraq, Persia, Istanbul (Constantinople) and Cyprus, and that the religion of Islam would reach as far as the remotest corners of the world in the east and west.

Where are these verses? If Muhammad simply says that he predicts that they will conquer nations, then that is not valid and nor is it specific. Even if he says, "You will conquer Damascus," there is still very heavy doubt since Persia was very weak at that point in history. If Muhammad prophesied that the Arabs would defeat an army that is around 5 times their size then I would consider that valid. Otherwise it would hold no water since the Mongols conquered the largest land mass. Does that mean the religion of the Mongols is true? Not at all.

The Prophet predicted the forms of government after him

The Prophet declared:

This affair began with Prophethood and as a mercy; then it will be mercy and Caliphate; afterwards it will change into a cruel monarchy, and finally into an iniquity and tyranny. He also prophesied: Surely, the Caliphate after me will last thirty years; afterwards it will a cruel monarchy.

Whatever the noble Prophet predicted came true.

Give me the verse numbers. What gives me heavy doubt is that the Hadith and Quran will recorded so far after Muhammad's death.

The Prophet predicted the caliphate and martyrdom of ‘Uthman

According to an authentic narration, the Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, declared:

‘Uthman will be killed while reading the Qur'an. God will dress him in a shirt but they will desire to remove it from him.

By this saying, he meant that ‘Uthman would become Caliph but his deposition would be sought, and finally he would be martyred while reading the Qur'an. This happened exactly as he predicted.

Verse and historical evidence. There better not be evidence for post-diction.

The Prophet foretold the future victories of Sa‘d

As narrated in a authentic Tradition, the noble Prophet of God, upon him be peace and blessings, said to Sa‘d ibn Abi Waqqas when the latter was gravely ill:

It is hoped that you will be spared so that some people may benefit through you and some others be harmed through you.

By this, he suggested that Sa‘d would be a great commander and make many conquests, and while many peoples would benefit from him by converting to Islam, many others would be harmed through him as a result of the collapse of their states.

Sa‘d, just as predicted by the holy Prophet, upon him be peace and blessings, took the command of the Muslim armies and destroyed the Persian Sassanid Empire, bringing many peoples within the guidance of Islam.

It seems sort of vague. However I will consider it valid if you can give me the verse, historical evidence, and the history of the Quran/Hadith. Also, did Muhammad do any miracles?

Lastly, I would like to ask how Muhammad can be the Prophet if he is not Jewish. For the prophets were all Jewish. The prophecy Moses said to the Jews was a Prophet for the Jews who was a Jew. Hence he said that the Prophet would be from their own brethren (Deut. 18:15).

I will later produce Bible prophesies that are very descriptive and very accurate.

May God Bless You All

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