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John :D Israel, Egypt, Flood, etc

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Submitted by Servant of Christ (United States), Feb 11, 2007 at 22:07

The egyptians would have wrote it down.

My point is, the Egyptians, Sumerians, and whoever would not have been the only nations to write down the Flood. It wasn't, "All the nations got the Flood idea from so and so". It was "The Flood happened and everybody passed down the Flood story for one thousand years and it was distorted". The point is, each ancient civilization had its Flood story yet known surpass the Biblical Flood. The Biblical Flood contains the exact dimensions for Noah's Ark, a more detailed account, no perversion within the story, and the dimensions are exactly the same as those scientists predict it would have to be.

Let's be realistic... First you say Sumerians and now you say Egyptians. Don't forget the fossil bone beds.

"The principal consensus among geologists is that the Colorado River basin (of which the Grand Canyon is a part) has developed in the past 40 million years and that the Grand Canyon itself is probably less than five to six million years old (with most of the downcutting occurring in the last two million years). The result of all this erosion is one of the most complete geologic columns on the planet.

The major geologic exposures in Grand Canyon range in age from the 2 billion year old Vishnu Schist at the bottom of the Inner Gorge to the 230 million year old Kaibab Limestone on the Rim. Many of the formations were deposited in warm shallow seas, near-shore environments (such as beaches), and swamps as the seashore repeatedly advanced and retreated over the edge of a proto-North America. Major exceptions include the Permian Coconino Sandstone which was laid down as sand dunes in a desert and several parts of the Supai Group.

The great depth of the Grand Canyon and especially the height of its strata (most of which formed below sea level) can be attributed to 5,000 to 10,000 feet (1500 to 3000 m) of uplift of the Colorado Plateaus, starting about 65 million years ago (during the Laramide Orogeny). This uplift has steepened the stream gradient of the Colorado River and its tributaries, which in turn has increased their speed and thus their ability to cut through rock (see the elevation summary of the Colorado River for present conditions).

Weather conditions during the ice ages also increased the amount of water in the Colorado River drainage system. The ancestral Colorado River responded by cutting its channel faster and deeper.

The base level and course of the Colorado River (or its ancestral equivalent) changed 5.3 million years ago when the Gulf of California opened and lowered the river's base level (its lowest point). This increased the rate of erosion and cut nearly all of the Grand Canyon's current depth by 1.2 million years ago. The terraced walls of the canyon were created by differential erosion.

About one million years ago, volcanic activity (mostly near the western canyon area) deposited ash and lava over the area, which at times completely obstructed the river. These volcanic rocks are the youngest in the canyon. "

http://www.scienceagainstevolution.org/v5i1n.htm

My point is, you can neither prove nor disprove the Flood. However, if it was in fact true, then so many questions would be answered.

Moses still must have got his 6 of his ten commandents from the egyptians.

Again, let's be serious. Each human has a God-given characteristic called a conscience. Because Egypt and Israel agree on "killing is bad", does not mean Israel forged their religion from a book. If you examine the book of Exodus, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy in which the Ten Commandments are given, you will see that many other commandments are given that are unrelated to other nations but are scientifically healthy and morally right.

I use to be a christian and I never really felt like that i had a relationship with God.

May I ask whether or not you had faith in him? Did you treat God like a vending machine in which you would not believe unless he did things for you? Or did you disbelieve because of the "evidence" of evolution or the pull of this world? Or perhaps it may be difficult times or tragedies? Did you try to conform to the person God wanted or was it the person the world wanted?

I don't know what your situation was. But I am indeed willing to listen why you stopped being a Christian if you wish.

The prophecies will come soon.

May God Bless You John!

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