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There's nothing like Modern Islam and a Conventional one

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Submitted by Sarah (Pakistan), Feb 12, 2008 at 22:36

Well..... I've recently changed my mind....I thought you knew something....NOW i see that you don't know anything. Did I say you're an enemy of Allah? No, I didn't. I really appreciated the man who wrote comments with the name Jaime here...He is NOT a muslim, but still he's got SOLID knowledge. DO read his comments and you'll come to know WHAT really a knowledge is.

1. An'al Haq was NOT said by Ibn Khaldoon, It was Mansoor Alhallaj. Every muslim respects him....even the MODERN muslims as you mentioned. He was HANGED....and if you read his history all in all....you'll be able to know the details. Rumi and Mansoor Alhallaj are much recognized persons even today....but WHAT they taught was a part of spiritualism ..which again is a part of Islam and half of the muslims practice that even today. Don't tell me that you are giving the reference of people like RUMI and KHALDOON and still tellin me that we've got a fictitous history? What makes you say we've got contradictory rules?

2. Yes, you are right....much of muslim leaders today are not true muslims, just like other religions don't have true followers, and THAT again doesn't change the religion. Islam was never changed...it hasn't got any divisions as modern islam and the conventional one. We'd got the same beliefs then and the same ones now.

3. If you read Salman Rushdi and state his ideas, then I'm extremely sorry to say...you won't be getting a wide perspective about Islam. He didn't even convert to the other religion....he still calls himself a muslim after he denied the quranic verses and the hadith. I would again refer to Jaime's comments in which he wrote that people just read those books which get an international fame or ARE published by the reknowned publishers...and so, one side of the picture remains hidden.

4. And If you think it's just in Islam that they have the rule for rebellions, let me specify, it's EVERYWHERE. Even though it's NOT stated in the holy bible to kill a person who converts to the other religion, the christian community kills that person....many cases in my country. Does it mean that MODERN CHRISTIANITY is a CULT? Moreover Rushdi was ONE...we don't need to kill our own people because we have solid and fact based religion to have a belief on. You won't be seeing people converting to christianity...not that they're afraid, they can always run to the other country like rushdi and get that government's security or UK, US or European nationaled muslims present in different parts of the world can easily convert, as the corresponding government would provide them a security. On the contrary, WHY millions of people are getting converted to this, as you said fictitious history based and contradictory rule based religion, even today? We have no NIGGER discrimination here, no HATRED for them just because of their race or colour or whatever.

Hitler and his army killed million of jews and rather with a cruelity. Does that mean all christians are terrorists and does it make christianity a MODERN CHRISTIANITY or a CULT? It does not.

Who actually assassinated Martin Luther King, Jr and stopped him from raising the voice for Afro Americans? They were no muslims. You do have that racism problem in the SO CALLED liberal state.

5. If you think we muslims assume things on our own and start thinking the other person who talks against our religion to be the enemy of Allah....you're wrong. I just meant to point out that PLEASE state something when you KNOW something as you still don't know WHO ibn khaldoon was and who was mansoor hallaj) What if I tell you that most of the people TALK about WHATEVER is propagandized, and don't use their own brains? Just like what I see comments here... and get the idea that YOU think EVERY other muslim to be a terrorist? Doesn't that mean all of the people like you turn against the word ISLAM just because of few people and WITHOUT judging the situation? If you might have read the comment with the title ' Oh my god..Just listen to this?', I totally agree with the lady who's written the comment.

6. The new generation of ours might be distracted, but they don't have the question of WHY in them. Again this BANNING of the internet and sattellite channels is a wrong news. See, you're talking what has been propagandized. I see no banning here, even when I visited other muslim countries...there's no banning there either just like it's no banning here. WHAT is BANNED, anyway? Mind visit some country and come to talk about that.

I've seen the hatred in the new generation....Just listen to the songs by the rap bands of US, you can actually smell the trauma which their new generation suffers from. The abusive language and the threats...make it all clear. Aren't they enjoying their freedom, thay've got no BANNED sattellite channels and Internet, like you said as per your knowledge? What's making them so depressed? Strange enough, these rappers are way too popular amongst the young generation in United States.

Talk on facts. Qatal fi sabilillah is NOT the motto as you called it to be MODERN MUSLIM's motto. I guess it's the general human reaction...when one's forced and suppressed much....as Israel is doing in Palestine.... people start reacting when they're not given their basic rights. Have ever watched and heard George Galloway? He's no muslim. I saw him leaving that interviewing lady with no answer once he was being interviewed about arab israel conflict, live on BBC.

I think, maybe it's not your fault much. Certain things have been SO VERY propagandized and exaggerated by the western media that it has been imprinted on most of the people's minds who haven't seen or have been unable to see the actual world themselves.

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