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Reader comment on item: Confirmed: Barack Obama Practiced Islam
in response to reader comment: Major Flaw In Daniel Pipes Reasoning : Becoming Muslim Requires A Mature, Public Declaraion of Faith

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Jul 4, 2008 at 08:02

Our dear Curtis another victim of Arabian imperialism wrote

>There one major flaw of reasoning in Danel Pipe's errant proclamation that Barack Obama was a practicing Muslim - To become a Muslim, a mature person must make a public declaration of Faith or Belief called the "Shahadah".

Wrong. The islamic tradition tells us that we are all born as Muslims! Remember? Then there is no need for anyone to recite al-shahada to become Muslim after all we are all Muslims. Right? And you would agree with me that a baby cannot recite al-shahada either. Right? Then your claim is bogus

So much for poor Muslim theology

>This is a public proclamation, in front of witnesses, where the individual declares in Arabic - "Laillallah Illallah. Muhammadan Rasoolallah" .

ROTFL? Let me correct your poor transliteration it is:

Ashhadu ana la ilaha ila Allah wa ashhadu ana Muhammadan (vocalization and I3rab) rasulu Allah

You need to stick to Urdu our dear Curtis

>This translates in English as "I bear witness that there is no God but Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah."

No it means: I'm a witness that there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is (the) prophet of Allah

Are you also aware that Ibn Taymiyya wrote that if a Muslim celebretes maulid al-nabi (oh no I do not translate Arabic for wannabe arabs) and even if he recites the al-shahada he still is not Muslim. How come you did not know that?

>This oath is usually given in the Masjid in front of all present therein.

The therein? You mean other wannabe arabs like you?

>This oath has to be freely given, with no coercion, by an individual who has reached the age of mature reasoning, generally designated by the age of puberty.

Then how do you explain ayat al-sayf where your Allah says iqtoloo al-mushikeen? No I do not translate arabic for wannabe arabs like you. Your claim is bogus

>That "There is no coercion in Islam" is an abiding principle in the religion.

Really? Is this the la ikrah fi al-deen or Q2:256? Are you aware that it was abrogated by ayat al-sayf? How come you did not know that?

>No one can force anyone else to become Muslim and no one can prevent anyone from becoming Muslim.

Are you aware that the Qur'an a book that you cannot read in Arabic says that islam is the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only?

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