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Submitted by Straight_Talk_Luigi (United States), May 29, 2008 at 19:50

Those are some really excellent points, Arthur.

First of all, I wouldn't say I have any love for the GOP. I'm an independent who votes independent. Here on Dr. Pipes's personal page, I am going to mirror their policies because, unlike democrats and libertarians, they aren't afraid of being politically incorrect and don't worry about being called racists or islamophobes.

The GOP lately has really turned my stomach lately in that some of their commentators are DEFENDING the high gas prices. DEFENDING the oil monopoly that has the entire civilized world in a WWE chokehold.

Speaking frankly, their unwillingness to cooperate with democrats on alternative energy, especially solar and wind, which they think is somehow beneath us and for whimps, is utterly startling and a threat to our national security.

The Crusades: Nearly 500 years before they even began, Islam began to attack the Byzantines. I could write pages on this, but Italy and Rome, the seat of the Church, took a beating for nearly 500 years and enough was enough.

The aim of the Crusades was not just to regain holy sites, but to drive out muarders, invaders and pirates.

Are you aware that during the course of this period and in the centuries after that over 1.5 million Europeans were taken as slaves by the Muslims? In fact, the raids got so bad in Italy, Spain, France, that no one wanted to live near the coasts.

Muslims also would go around villages and make inquiries about all the religious affiliations of people and kill all the non-Muslims.

An isolated case? maybe. As to western women who choose to marry into a polygamous relationship? Help me here, but is that strikingly worse than for example (a) living alone (b) being in a lesbian relationship (c) becoming a hooker, or (d) marrying two men? In all instances, that is a choice that impacts the individual, far more than it has any impact on the society, my society, my life. I may choose to do some things that others would consider dumb, but isn't that my choice? or is it only men who are to be permitted to make mistakes? No, I would not wish to live under Sharia, but do you seriously think anyone would come here and suggest that I do so? Good luck to them to try.

What you have to understand is that in modern society, what you do in the back corner of your bedroom DOES affect the rest of us, ESPECIALLY if you use tax dollars to get thearpy or treatment for an unwanted pregnancy or some STD.

Your defense of these women doing this is out of freedom.


What you don't seem to grasp, Arthur, is that women going into these relationships have no clue what they are getting into, and deceit is necessary to get them to consent.
I've talked to many of them, and some will snip at me and say they are learning all about Islam from their men. Yeah, how convienent. I'm sure since you are educated, you know the dangers of using just one source. And what happens? They get married, go over there, and this educated, Western woman is nothing but a servant-woman who gets ... on the side so the man can brag to his friends after Friday prayers how he shagged a white woman.

The psychological studies about polygamous marriages involve feelings of intense jealousy among the females (women have a 25% higher proprotion of connective tissue between the right and left lobes, which makes them more susceptible to emotions). It generates feelings of inferiority, especially in intercultural marriages. Many times, even in single marriages, Western women are seen by Muslim men as inferior. The correlation between religions that promote polygamy and incest, and child molestation are too great to ignore.

This mentality has lead to underreported rape epidemic in Europe. And it's not just white women who are getting raped. Muslim immigrants living in inner cities try very hard to control the places they live in through secrecy and closed dwelling (another effect of polyamgous marriage, as you've heard in Texas). One clinic in Oslo, Norway says that it can't even deal with all the rape cases it receives because there are so many.

I was reading an interview from a Swedish newspaper about a man called Hamid. Hamid was a convicted rapist. He said it was okay to rape Swedish women because they have been ...before. When asked if he would ever marry, he laughed and said he wouldn't marry a Swedish sl--, I mean, woman, he corrected and chuckled. He said when he was ready (done screwing Swedish women) he would marry a Muslim girl from his own culture who was a well-mannered virgin.

You can sit here and say it's the choice of these women all you want, but in a lot of cases it's not. The reason why these women are raped isn't because they are white (second-generation immigrants who do not wear the veil are just as likely to be raped) but for the purposes of control. That is the whole idea behind rape, it's why it happened at Nanking. Demoralize the enemy, and yes, Arthur, we are the enemy.

The other comment you had made was that Islam will never overrun Europe. Europe is currently in what demographers would call a phase five population shift. This shift means people are getting older because of advances in medicine, but due to the wealthy lifestyle, children are not being born.

If you strip away all of the multicultural niceties and political correctness and look at the hard evidence many Western European countries will have an Islamic majority by 2050. Leaders in Palestine, Turkey and Libya have called for Muslims to have more and more children for the purpose of overrunning Europe. The native EU population will take it's biggest hit since the Black Plague, the only worthwhile population decrease in the last 12,000 years of humanity, by simply not having children. This is what happens when you mainstream the gay lifestyle and promote contraception, abortion and feminism and still want a big government to tend your every need. The Europeans only put up with this crap and cover it with multicultarism because it sounds nice. What they really want is just more tax revenue so they can work less, travel more and watch TV all day. Just like lazy American college students.

All they'll have to do at that point is vote in conservative imams, remove democracy and impose sharia law and Western civilization East of the Atlantic will be gone. Zip. nada. This century. In your lifetime.

Here in the USA, Islamization is a fantasy. Over 80% of this country are Christian, and despite claims about Muslim growth, the CIA estimates that there are twice as many Jews as Muslims and that Buddhism has overtaken Islam in number of adherents. We also have immigration from Latin America, which is nominally Catholic.

Unfortunately, we have numerous people in this country who want sharia law. They are called CAIR. Many of the Muslims who want this do not troll around the streets and openly declare themselves. The strategy is to convert all the Americans first, and then impose sharia law.

Of course, you'll have to note the hypocrisy. I mean, many of these barbaric men who want religious rule are in the mean enjoying all the beer, sex, drugs they can get. But don't be fooled.

The problem with increased contact between the Middle East is West is that we are at a disadvantage. Many Christian websites are banned in Saudi Arabia, as are pornographic ones, and maybe even Dr. Pipes site? Anything that could even deter a Muslim from his faith is shunned. That is who and what we are dealing with, Arthur, and quite honestly, I don't think liberals have the guts for it, because conservative Muslim male zealots are even more boisterious than the loudest, nudest campus protesters you'll find.

I think it's a good idea, and I've been trying to advocate Christian missions for Muslim countries, but like I said, you need to be aware of what you are getting into.

I agree with you on the Iraq War. It was an unnecessary distraction and people need to realize that we deposed a secular leader. Yes, genocide was going on, yes he did harbor a few hundred terrorists, but I do believe Saddam did not trust Muslim fanatics, and sought to have order and control in his borders, even if by very unjust means.

You have some good feedback on the Republicans, but I can't quite find myself on that bandwagon. But let's be honest: Democrats and Libertarians don't care if you support osama or not, as long as you vote for Hilary or Obama or Ron Paul.

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