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Submitted by Abdul Rahman Reijerink (Australia), Jun 4, 2006 at 10:52

Muslims are always the agressors? What about WWI and II? combined death toll? who knows probably more than 60 million!!!! War in south vietnam and surrounding areas... at least three million civilians, Communist China, responsible for at least 100 million excess deaths due to its policies. so called "capitalism", the toll is incalculable, how many children die each day to preventable hunger related diseases, how much of that is due to debt, nothing but low intensity conflict on the weakest of the weak? When Bush senior and Reagan invaded Panama, (upwards of forty thousand poor people were killed in the "arrest" of Norreiga, their remains just bulldozed into the ground) and Grenada and made war on Nicaragua were muslims involved? How about in Sri Lanka, where hindus are killing more people than all muslim terrorists combined? South Africa's invasion of SW Africa and Angola... all christian majority areas, a war that killed over one million people.

Islam is not a religion driven by hate, you seem to be. Yes muslims can be driven by hate, but does anyone say anymore that sectarian violence in Northern Ireland is really about religion and who believes that the host is Jesus and whether the pope is infallible? Yes people misuse scripture to justify all sorts of atrocity (like slavery... how many millions killed, or the conquest of the new world, again the toll is in the millions), Is Christianity to balme for that or greed and an agenda that is essentialy pure idolatory subverting the message of God?

Nuclear weapons... interesting, in the eighties, possibly still today, extremist yet mainstream Evangelical christians believed that Reagan should go toe to toe with Gorby and unleash Armageddon and bring on the rapture... this is documented history. Israel gave the bomb with a nod and a wink from Uncle Sam to Jew hating facist south africa, just because these two states had no friends, a wicked codependence developed that allowed african diamonds to be sold as Israeli goods... money that funded the deaths of how many (christian and muslim) freedom fighters in South Africa. Pakistan got the bomb for uncle sams strategic interests with a nod and a wink. this is all historical fact. Lets face it those who own nuclear weapons are the biggest terrorists on Earth, I remember the tension of the Cold War and it was not fun.

Do you seriously believe that the government of Iran poses a threat to anyone but its own popuation and that of occupied Iraq? Serious delivry systems and warheads are serious business, having a bomb or twenty is peanuts in the face of the arsenals that are around. BTW, the weapons program of the powers is more dangerous, they are so hopeless, they can't even keep track of all their weapons grade material (this aint just the ruskies), heaps of it has gone missing.... noone knows where it is or if it is on the black market, getting inot the hands of (not so big but bad enough)terrorists.possibly.

So where does your evidence stack up now? yes so called muslim Indonesia killed something like 1 in 3 East Timorese, but guess who let them get away with it and gave them the weapons and training to do so, Australia and Uncle Sam, guess when the killing finally stopped, when it became embarrasing for Clinton.

My point, just admit you hate Islam and stop pretending otherwise. We need to unite against the killers no matter how they disguise themselves, whether as statesmen or bandits hiding in caves. they are all criminals. Yes religion is used to promote hatred and control people to commit atrocity, but is it really the religions or just ignorance that is doing this.. afterall the Israelis could justify killing all Palestinians and "driving them into the sea" with the scriptures you inherited from them. But would anyone think that that was a faithful reading of the Hebrew bible?

Stop conflating the so called Islamists (what that means is all a bit too hazy) with Islam and work with us to take it back from the people that the CIA armed and trained in the eighties and the British way back in the 19th century in their little colonial adventure. If you treat Islam as monolithic, you will group the sheep with the goats.


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