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To Shakeel: Seeing the truth at the point of a sword

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Submitted by Plato (United Arab Emirates), May 27, 2007 at 09:26

Shakeel, you are in brackets:

[I have already explained to you that Rasool is a Warner and Giver of glad tidings. He tells them everything and God does not send punishment in a day or two. He gives both people enough time to hear Rasool and pay attention and enough time to Rasool to explain everything.]

Shakeel, I can explain to you that Rama is the reincarnation or Rasool of Vishnu, a Hindu God, come to bring His mercy to mankind. Will you believe me? Why should I believe your story about your Rasool being a warner and glad tidingser?

[Now all the Maccan saw that Rasool was not telling them jokes. He was talking serious, when he used to tell them stories of Noah, Hud, Lot, Jonah. When he used to frighten them from God's Wrath and call them toward God's Mercy.]

You do have a sense of humour, Shakeel. For thirteen years the Meccans treated the Rasool's cock-and-bull stories with amusement and derision but hey presto when the light shown from the Prophet's sword the darkness of their souls disappeared and the truth of the tall tales of Noah, Hud, Jonah, and the lot of the Rasools jumped at them with crystal clarity. The joke is that if Rama pointed his arrow at your heart you would also have a change of heart unless you are like that brave pagan who spat at the rightly-guided Calipha for trying to convert him at the point of his sword.

[One by one all the Arabs fell down and it became evident to Kings outside Arabia and within Arabia, that Muhammad is special and his message should be taken seriously, but Kings were also no different than the old Maccan, same arrogant attitude, same stubbornness and resultantly their kingdoms fell to the hands of Companions.]

What a great religion Shakeel. Islam depends on Arabs falling down, being humiliated and being killed to make its mark. Do you wonder people and kings started taking it seriously? A religion that brings death and humiliation has to be taken very seriously. We all do even now. We see the deaths and humiliation suffered by the Arabs because of the lessons taught by their Rasool even 1400 years after his death.

[And now read this message of God: Surely, those that oppose God and his Rasool, shall be humiliated. God has decreed, "I will surely triumph – I and My Rasool". Powerful is God and Mighty(Quran 58:20-21)]

Your Allah sure has a funny way of triumphing. He does it by humiliating His own creatures and massacring them at the hands of his Rasool and his companions for silly reasons like not repeating the shahada when told to. Not a very nice deity Shakeel.

[With the fall of Macca, it became evident to other Arabs, that Muhammad's message is not false. Many accepted Islam willingly but few of them took on the same attitude as did the Maccan, a stubborn and arrogant attitude.].

Why is it that in Islam truth comes at the point of a sword? Your sense of humour is evident again when you say that many accepted Islam willingly. The truth dawns on people all of a sudden after 13 years when Alllah's raiders armed to the teeth are loitering in their front yard.

[Just see, Arabs before and after Muhammad. Before Muhammad, they were fighting tribes, and they were never the challenge for the kings of greater empires.]

As you say just see Arabs before and after Mohammed. After Mohammed three rightly-guided Companions were murdered by Muslims. The Prophets favourite wife and his favourite cousin conducted a nice litle war. Muawiya and Ali squabbling over Mohammed's empire, the massacre of the Prophet's grandchild. Must I go on? And we see the Arabs now. When did the Arabs stop shedding blood? Compared to skirmishing between tribes before the Rasool, after Mohammed you had mass murders beginning with the Sword of Islam, Khalid Bin Walid. And your saying that Arabs after the Rasool could challenge big empires just goes to show what Allah's purpose was. He wanted the Arabs to conquer other nations

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