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To Shakeel: The threat of the shahada hanging over us

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Submitted by Plato (United Arab Emirates), May 24, 2007 at 01:16

Shakeel you are in square brackets and you wrote:

[These verses do not contradict each other, one is an instruction to general Muslims and other is an instruction to Rasool and His companions, which are being used by God to implement judgment on earth and to punish wrong doers by their hands].

Ah, that beautiful word context. What would Muslims do without it? One word most and used and abused by Muslim apologists.

010.098
YUSUFALI: Why was there not a single township (among those We warned), which believed,- so its faith should have profited it,- except the people of Jonah? When they believed, We removed from them the penalty of ignominy in the life of the present, and permitted them to enjoy (their life) for a while.
010.099
YUSUFALI: If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth! wilt thou then compel mankind, against their will, to believe!
010.100
YUSUFALI: No soul can believe, except by the will of Allah, and He will place doubt (or obscurity) on those who will not understand.

009.028
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise.
009.029
YUSUFALI: Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
009.030
YUSUFALI: The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!

Read 10:99 and 9:29 again. What you seem to be saying is 10:99 is a general instruction to Muslims and 9:29 is a special instruction of the Rasool and his companions. The general instruction warns all Muslims, including I presume the Rasool since it says 'wilt THOU then compel'. The THOU can only be the Rasool. Good logic, for once, since the Lord could easily have made everyone believers. You are now saying that Allah then gave special permission to the Rasool to make a slaughter in the land to compel them to believe. Islamic logic tells you that is not a contradiction?

[Let me tell you one hadith, in which Prophet said, that no one can save his life, wealth and property unless he says by mouth that God is one, He does not have any partner and Muhammad is His Rasool]

There you have it. The Muslim threat to the rest of mankind. If you believe this hadith it means that you, as a Muslim, can threaten my life and property for not LOUDLY proclaiming the shahada. Here the Rasool himself has given you that permission. Simple logic, Shakeel. If I do not proclaim the shahada what happens to me? My life and property are forefeit. By whose hands? The Rasool is in his grave. With this hadith he has, as so often done, reached out from his resting place to plunder us of our property and lives. As your jurisprudents say my blood is allowed. Nice little hadith. I was not aware of that one. Can you please give me the reference?

If Muhammad is not a partner of Allah why do you have to superglue his name with His?

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