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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Sep 23, 2010 at 02:00

An ordinary Turkish Guy ,

To tell you the truth I didn't expect an honest answer from you , i.e. a "Yes" or "No" answer. You've confirm once again my deep belief ... You write :

"I cannot say something about muslim crimes because I dont believe in Muslim brotherhood."

Or perhaps because you're a Moslem yourself like 99,8% of Turks and by admitting the otherwise iurrefutable historical facts of the jihadist and genocidal Moslem record , you'd do that which no Moslem ever does , i.e. admit one's crimes . In oder not to do that you ahev invented this absurd alibi which only exposes you ...

The question I don't expect you to answer would be why do you believe in Christian/Jewish brotherhood then since you tell us so copiously with "How about Christian and Jewish crimes?" Your perverted lack of consistency (you disculpate Islam on a made-up pretext and at the same don't hesitate to drop this made-up pretext to accuse Christianity and Judaism of what best describes Islam , i.e. genetic criminality !) betrays a perfidious Moslem hypocrite.

> But I can say every nation, religion is equally guilty for crimes against humanity.<

How can anyone in his senses say that ? If Turks extermiante 1,5mln Armenians in the name of Allah , do teh same with 1mln Greeks and several hundered thousands of Assyrians , the how many Turks did the Armenians/Greeks/Assyrians have to kill to be "equally guilty for crimes against humanity" or to outbalance the crimes perpetrated against them on paranoid gorunds which only Islam could suggest ?(I leave apart the interesting question of what sort of "humanity" barbarian Turks represent ). If you equate the murderer and the victim, the nomad raider and sedentary artisan and peasant, then either you're trying to whitewash and disculpate the murderer or you simply don't know what you are talking about.

I also note that by "every nation , religion" you mean everything but not the Turks and Islam. You are cautious to be explicit about these two terms which again is a good indication of who you are.

> I dont see any differences between muslims, christians or jewish people in commiting crimes...<

Moslems commit crimes becaue their religion is founded by a ... who ordered them to follow his example. Mohammed is their perfect man. They have to imitate him by all possible means (not just by giving every second new born boy the name of Mohammed=Mehmet=Mahmud ) by exterminating and suppressing all things non-Islamic . It's how Islam started and spread - through jihad and genocide and forced conversions and janissaries.

Christ's teaching is quite different and can't be based on Christian sunnah telling us how Jesus killed and beheaded to promote his religion just as Mohammed the caravan raider and rapist did. S any crime committed by a Christian has not much to do with Christianity which is the very opposite to what obtains for Islam.

Jews don't convert anyone forcibly to Judaism, don't organize pogroms and riots when caricatures of Moses are published. They don't hunt dissenters or put a price on the head of inconvenient writers as Moslems routinely do . That they are eager to avoid a second holocaust from the Moslem anti-Semites in case they lose a war tells more about their realism and common sense than crimes as you impudently imply. Just to remind you of one thing . It was Moslems that like to behead and lynch Jews who happened come into the hands of Moslems and then film it all. Israel is the only civilized country surrounded by primitive Moslem hordes. If you can't see a fundamental difference between Moslem barbarity and Jewish civilization , then it is probably because you belong to the former .

All the Islamic countries inlcuing the one you have come here to extol are nasty dysfunctional oppressive and tyrannical police states with no freedom of though and total mind control. If you think that also Jews and Christians and Buddhists and atheists should love these Moslem cesspools that breed terrorism, crime and barbarity and intolerance , then I'd rather do all I can to keep the civilization I love free from Moslem immigrants and invaders. Being a Moslem is bad. But being a Moslem and a Turk is disastrous. I saw this disaster in terms of cultural degradation and decline in Germany. Enough is enough.

> Do you think muslims are more guilty than others in commiting crimes? If so, tell us on what ground you think so...<

Of course , Moslems are more guilty, more criminal and evil. I'll explain it to you , Moslem , on one example that struck me when I first saw it.

During the Pol Pot era in Cambodia a genocide was perpetrated . I saw a documentary a few years ago about it . Two former perpetrators of the genocide who became Buddhist monks described their crimes with every detail - whom and how they killed, how and where they tortured , how they lied to elicit the confessions of guilt of teh victims etc. etc. Now Buddhism is a noble religion where truth is the supreme value. To hide it is the greatest sin. Now take Turkey to contrast it. The Turks exterminated in the most beastly fashion a few million people - burning them alive, skinning, burying alive, smashing little babies... The criminal record of the Turkish army in Cyprus in 1974 is not muc different from that of Enver Pasha's hordes. Yet, can you give me a name of a single Turk who has confessed his crimes which are confirmed by a thousand witnesses and docuemnets from all possible countries ? The Armenian genocide is best illustrated by the German , American, Austrian archives . But what do I say? Nowadays, for admitting the crime in Turkey people get jailed for 3-4 years or are assassinated . Now why is it so ? Because of Islam which makes people commit the most terrifying atrocities and deny it the enxt moment . All serves just one purpose to glorify and promote Islam at teh expense of everything else and first of all teh truth which has no meaning in Islam as Islam and truth have become synonyms in the dysfunctional and atrophied Moslem mind.

Now things being so, tell me please - who is a worse criminal ? The one who commits a crime and confesses it later ( that's why you can talk about the Indians , even though I do doubt you're interested in them at all) or the mass murderer who commits innumerable atrocities and denies all of them impudently (hence you can't find a single book worth the name in public Turkish library on the subject ) , threatening and cursing those who point to his blood-stained hands and knife and mountain of corpses strewn around ?

Submitting....

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