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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Aug 28, 2010 at 06:35

Caleb wrote :

> The numbers above cited are enormously exaggerated, both of Turks from the mainland brought in (true figure about 100,000) and those displaced from the Greek Cypriot community (perhaps 80,000). <

If you admit "about 100 000" , you admit ipso facto that 50% of the population in the North has nothing to do with Turkish Cypriots at all. The funny thing is though this number is very flexible and can bothr educed and increased . It can be largely reduced if only those with the pseudo-citizenship of the pseudo-state TRNC by Turkey's grace are included - some 35 000. But it will by far exceed 100 000 if all the rest of Turks imported from Anatolia are included who just happen to "reside" in the North. For 2005 the following observation [ from a study "An inquiry into the political integration of the Turkish 'settlers' in Northern Cypus ] is of particular interest :

" Using census data from 1996, with updates and electoral lists as alternative and more authoritative measures, the report estimates that the total number of TRNC citizens of Turkish-mainland origin currently residing in northern Cyprus is between 32,000 and 35,000 plus offspring – that is, between 16.8% and 18.4% of the total number of citizens of the TRNC (190,000).

The total number of Turkish-originated temporary residents (non-citizens) is estimated (for 2005) at about 102,000, distributed as follows: registered workers (16,277); non-registered workers (30,000); tourists (1,695 on average at any particular time); university students (18,398) and lecturers (500); and Turkish army personnel, including conscripts and family members (35,000). "

If you add those two numbers you'll arrive at 137 000 Anatolian Turks , i.e. some "modest" 70% of the total population. You can't see the implications of this forcible demographic shift , can you ?

As to the "enormously exaggerated" number of the expelled Greeks it is contained in such neutral documents as the 1976 report of the Euopean Commission for Human Rights on Cyprus "Turkey's invasion in Cyprus and aftermath" where it reads :

" The Turkish Army displaced 200,000 Greek Cypriots (more than one third of the population) from their homes. This was effected partly by physical expulsion and partly by a systematic campaign of terror, causing Greek Cypriots to flee in the face of Turkey's advancing armed forces. Refugees and expellees were not permitted by the Turkish Army to return to their homes in the Turkish occupied area."

I'd be very interested where your "perhaps 80 000" comes from. Don't you dream of Turkish numbers sometimes ?

> This is not to deny that Turkey acted illegally.<

Wow ! Will you also admit all the heinous crimes perpetrated by the Turks during their "illegal action" or your legal consciousness doesn't go that far ?

> The Phaedon Gazikis government in Athens, which succeeded the Colonels helped bring on the Turkish intervention by its foolish talk of **enosis**, the very thing Britain solemnly promised the Turkish minority would **never happen**. <

Some time ago you blamed the coup d'etat against Makarios for being the cause of the Turkish invasion. Now you blame the government in Athens "which succeeded the colonels" and their talks of "enosis". Have you ever heard about American talks about enosis as incorporated in teh Acheson plan" ? If you are consistent you must blame also him for the Turkish invasion , needn't you ? Interestingly enough , the idea that the invaders may be the main culprits of the invasion and its atrocities has never ocurred to you .

As to the British promises , they repeatedly promised Cyprus to Greece - in 1915 and in 1940 and never kept their promises. So why were they so high-hearted to keep them for the Turks' sake , I pray ? This is the more amazing as you , Turkish apologist , should remember that in 1923 Kemal's Turkey solemnly renounced ANY claims to Cyprus in the Treaty of Lausanne which as far as I know has never been repudiated by her.


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