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Reader comment on item: Turkey in Cyprus vs. Israel in Gaza
in response to reader comment: Ianus - again

Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Aug 22, 2010 at 04:08

Kaan wrote :

> Why are you so obsessed with religion? <

Not with religion, with Islam. Islam is not like any other religion. ... Which other religion orders to kill apostates ?

There about 30 armed conflicts in the world . But imagine that in some 28 of them Islam is the driving force - be it in Chechnia, Cashmir, Kosovo or Northern Cyprus. The main danger to this world comes not from Buddhism or Hinduism but from Islam with jihadist mentality it forms.

Anyway, to stick to the subject of this thread you believe that when 500 churches, monasteries, chapels, cemeteries in Northern Cyprus are dsacrated and destroyed and mosques and Quranic chool are immediately erected in their place all of this has nothing to do with Islam , does it ?

> We are in 21st century!<

Yes, we -unless you're Moslem- are. But Moslems are in the 15th century , year 1431. Besides, the idea of progress has no validity in the Islamic mind dominated by the idea of return to the golden age of Mo and his four "Rightly guided" sucessors.

> No enlightment in Poland?<

Enough enlightenment -despite all the EU guidelines to promote Islamic obscurantism - to fight obscuratism wherever we see it.

It's hard to believe "in the religion of peace" where there is nothing but the message of war, hatred, destruction and lying and decapitating Polish ingineers in dar al-Islam. And we have had also cases of "Islamic justice" here in Poland , the latest of which happened last year whith a naive Polish girl who had married a Pakistani. She was tortured, slaughtered and her body was burnt here near Lodz in the forest . Her name was Agnieszka Ababs and you can see her picture here . And her "crime" ? She opposed selling her four little children for marriage to a clan in Pakistan as the Moslem tradition requires. Her husband's honour and so the head of teh lan decided the husband had to kill the infidel wife to do an Allah-pleasing act.

> Read about legal hurdles in Greece to open up a radio station in a foreign language (by the way, against EU laws). That is one example.<

To avoid all hard issues and avoid the attention from the bloody Turk you always find more an more of your favourite stuff - abstract moralizing .

But I am the most unlikely person to buy it ! I will not spend a single good word on the corrupt and arbitrary EU and its secretive methods . Nowadays 80% of laws we have are made in Brussels by lobbyists and burocrats that have nothing tod with the people of Europe who are forced to live by these corrupt and arbitrary "laws".

As to having foreign radio stations and the implied idea of multicultural "paradise" like the one I have seen in Germany with Turks storming hospitals or engaged in massive anti-German espionage and propaganda and German political leaders crying "mea culpa" I'd rather live without a foreign radio station and those who finance it and use it to cover up quite different activities.

> I am not comparing murders on ethnic groups by Turks or murders and rapes by Greek army during the Greek invasion towards Ankara after WW I,<

Another favourite Turkish "argument" . And you insist you're no Turk , don't you? Just a Turkified German/Kurd/Circassian... ?

In the American archives dealing with the Turkish-American relation for 1922 there is an interesting document from the time before the sack of Giaour Izmir by the Islamic Kemalist hordes. Soon before the arrival of these hordes before Giaour Izmir the Turks sent a note to the US government with the sort of argument you included complaining about "murders and rapes by Greek army during the Greek invasion towards Ankara". The Americans took this note very seriosuly and proposed establishing a neutral commission of experts to inquire into the Turkish charges and find out the guilty. The funny thing is that the Turks never responded to the fair ZAmerican offer as they most probably never intended to. They proceeded swiftly to their favourite jihadist job of looting, raping, killing and torturing anything they found in Giaour Izmir. They did it before the eyes of the entire world. To obliterate the traces of their crimes then set fire to Smyrna. Interestingly enough though, the squalid Turkish quarters were never touched by fires the Turkish propaganda keeps attributing to the Greeks, although everybody who is interested in this case knows that the city had been occupied by the Kemalist jihadist for 3 days when the fires started. The Turk had to wait for the wind from the south to be sure the Moslem Turkish quarters would remain intact.

>it is just an example about a lack of an open society in Western Europe.<

When open societies allow mass immigration from closed Oriental societies what happens is that these former change into what the latter are - dysfunctional cesspools.

> Ianus, the town is still called Istanbul and I have not heart about a destruction of the Ecumenical Patriarchate.<

I can't say that what surprises me is your lack of knowledge with the certainty of your statements. It's is usually so.

Now this town is not "still" called Istanbul but since 28 March 1930 when theTurkish Postal Service Law was imposed by Ghazi Kemal to make foreigners forget history and common usage. Until that time 'Instabul" was only the old part of the city with Hagia Sophia. But when alsoteh other parts of the city , i.e. Galata(Peras) and Skutari (Chrysopolis) were meant one always spoke of Constantinople.

I do realize that your ears are as selective as you eyes. You see and hear only what you want to see and hear, i.e. Turkish propaganda and lies. These are quite well-known to you as every of your responses shows . Unless they are not sufficient to have an intelligent conversation on the subject.

>Please do not send me any conspirative information<

I take it for granted you have never deigned to read the comment which by the way I never intended for people of your notorious mindset.

Let me explain what I mean by "people of your notorious mindset". How could anyone in his senses call "Decree No 1092 from 06.12.1923", "expulsion of Patriarch Constantinos VI on January 30 1925 from the Patriarchate" (with a link from a contemporary press report), 3000 known cases of confiscations and robebries of Patriarchate's properties, well-testified burnings of and attacks with bombs and grenades from Turkish army depots against churches and institutions belong to the Ecuemnical patriarchate belong , plans to assassinate the patriarch published by Turkish press, the 2007 decision by the Supreme Court of Turkey to make public referrence to patriarch as "Ecumenical" illegal etc. etc. ... in short facts, dates, and details (all to be found in the comment you ignored ) "conspirative information" ? If you call it so and take recourse to unspecified abstract moral claims concerning "murders and rapes by Greek army during the Greek invasion towards Ankara" , then it gives an interesting glimpse into the methodology by which you have arrived at the present state of your "knowledge" of the subject . I have met some people as unreceptive and immune to new knowledge as you are .

> even you should know, that a destruction will never happen.<

I congratulate you on your foreknowledge of things that will and will not happen. I presume you have got it while reading and listening to Turkish revelations by your Turkish friends and coleagues. I admit I have no such foreknolwedge at all . What I do know is that nobody without a Turkish citizenship and without being educated in a theological school in Turkey can become an Ecumenical patriarch according to the "law" imposed by Ghazi Pemal Pasha . I see the official vlid Turkish laws are "conpirational information" for you. How could you spread about the Turkish lies here if you called a spade a spade ? As fewer and fewer Greeks live in Turkey because life for them has been made unbearable by the happy Turks and tehir terror and the only theological school in Turkey Halki is closed there won't be soon anyone to replace the patriarch. And this is exactly what teh Turk wants! In this unbloody way the bloody Ataturkish dream of eliminating this last painful memory of Turkey's criminal past will be obliterated for good.

If this had not been intended, then why should Ghazi Kemal have introduced all these humiliating and hateful alws against the Ecumenical Patriarchate ? [ Note that your ignorance of them doesn't eman they are not in force ] Just to show how generous, "open" and "multicultural' Turkey with its notorious record of genocide is ?


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