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"The dirty Turk" is more than a metaphor .

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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Sep 7, 2010 at 02:41

Caleb,

I haven't expected you to keep to the point and you don't disappoint me.

>If Turkey was pro-Communist, it was not demonstrated on the barren hillsides of Korea.<

That Turkey was pro-communist was demonstrated by Mustafa aka Kemal aka Ghazi aka Lenin's best friend aka Ataturk ... who was saved by Soviet gold, arms and generals. It was also demonstrated during the civil war in the 70-ies and 80-ies when the left movement was crushed by a coalition between the Islamists and the militarists or the so called "guardians of secularism".

> Whatever aid economic and military the US extended to Ankara, it was earned there with Turkish blood.<

The use of the Turks in Korea was not in exchange for billions of dollars from America . These billions had been flowing into Turkey before the Korean war and after it. It was meant as an argument to override the vehement opposition of most members states of NATO to get Turkey- a non-European country - in. Why should Norway fight for Turkey's imperialist and Pan-Turkic dreams and defend her in the innumerable conflicts with all her neighbours ?

> Yes, cholera is a problem in Turkey, mostly in historic "plague cities" like Izmir with crude sanitation. But then, Izmir was a principally Greek city until 1923 when it was called Smyrna.<

Just for your information , in September 1922 the Kemalist hordes changed this Greek city into a heap of smouldering ashes and decaying corpses of the massacred Greeks and Armenians. The only part left intact were the filthy Turkish quarters. So as you see the term "dirty Turk" is not just a metaphor .

> Turks accept a lower standard of living than Greeks. It's called "living within one's means".<

No, it is called "misgoverment" and deficient work ethics ! The Greeks in Cyprus needed no subsidies before 1974. The island was relatively prosperous and its economy growing. What happened after the Turks had seized most wealth available in Cyprus ? The only thing that prevents nowadays Northern Cyprus Villayet (I can't call it a state will as I may ) from bankruptcy are the subsidies of $ 400 000 000 received from Ankara annually. And still the per capita income in the north so endowed with natural resources is c. 50% of that of the south poor in terms of natural resources. In free Cyprus it is $21,200 , in the Turkish occupied it is $13,253 (2009).

So why make a virtue of necessity and why call notorious Moslem misrule and lousy work ethics "living within one's means"? Why this consistent double talk ?

> It's not Turkey that has come hat in hand to the EU for a **$145 Billion** bailout, nor its citizens indignantly, and violently, refusing to institute austerity measures so as to have some remote possibility to pay the money back.<

As far as Greece is concerned its financial indicators are not worse than those of the US. America's external debt in 2010 is c. 105% of the GDP, in Greece it is 115% . The budget deficit in the US is 15% in Greece it is 12%. But while the US can prinit money wherever it needs to circumvent temporarily the difficulties and to prolong its 'prosperity' , Greece has been forced to remain hostage to the Euro . They wanted to leave the Euro zone but were stopped with outright blackmail and threats .

But the plight of Greece has one extra cause worth mentioning - Turkey . With this bloodthirsty monster as a neighbour that daily encroaches upon the Greek air zone , that intrigues in Western Thrace , is engaged in mass human trafficing from Moslem lands to Greece , that smuggles drugs to Greece , that claims Greek territories and resources , Greece is forced to spend more on the military than the US in terms of its budget. 4,3% of its budget are spent on the military . All this money could have gone to finance culture and social services had no such state as Turkey existed !

> Opium has been cultivated in eastern Anatolia since time immemorial. One Turkish province even is even is named **Afyon**: opium. The Turkish opium crop is purchased by the government. All of it goes in legal channels for medical use.<

So now producing and smuggling heroin from Turkey is decorously justified with its "medical use" ? As to "legal channel" you probably haven't read John Stanton's article at all. It describes how deeply Turkey's authorities are involved in the narcotics business. Military helicopters are used to transport the weed ...and in Britain the consequences are dire and the Turkish gangs are thriving upon misery and destruction of the British youth !

> The territory of Turkey is vast, the long border with Iran wild and rugged, difficult to police. The government does what it can to interdict illegal shipments of heroin produced elsewhere. It moves in small quantities, hidden in truck engines rather than by the truck load.<

The name Sibel Edmonds doesn't make any bells ring in your ears, does it ? It worthwhile to google about her to see what your smoke screen tries to obfuscate and glibly exlain away. Turkey produces heroin and "exports" it. It is deeply involved in that Satanic business. In fact it ahs always been .

Around 1970 Henry Kissinger who was President's Assistant for National Security Affairs submitted the memorandum to President Nixon : "Economic Assistance for Turkey' . We read in it i.al.

" I raise the issue only because of our narcotics problem with the Turks. Secretary Kennedy had originally raised an objection to providing the loan until Turkey had agreed to eliminate its opium poppy production, although Treasury subsequently withdrew its objection and agreed with State that withholding it might aggravate political relations and restrict Demirel's ability to be helpful on the opium problem.

Demirel, in the subsequent months, has sharply reduced the number of provinces in which opium could legally be grown. He could ideally have done more. However, the opium producing provinces are important strongholds of his Justice party, which has only recently emerged from a divisive political crisis in which forty of its members voted with the opposition, defeated the budget, and forced resignation of the Government. Had Demirel banned opium production in all provinces, it is probable that he would have been unable to survive politically."

Interesting, isn't it ? Especially, if we remember what charges Bill Hayes (the Midnight Express') was arrested asnd jailed for years on .

> Financial scandals? Where is George Koskotas and more important where is the $210 million that "disappeared" from the Bank of Crete? His larcenies brought down a government.<

What is $200 mln compared to Cem Uzan's billions of dollars stolen from Motorola and other companies to found a successful political party or the billions of Saudi dollars that launched Erdogan's movement into power ?

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