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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Aug 2, 2010 at 19:25

Oguztolga,

It's interesting that Turks - those notorious exterminators and nasty enemies of Hellenism - feel so competent as to teach us on what we should think about the later Roman Empire, Hellenism and Greek history. Won't they also give us lessons on Armenian history and the superiority of the Turkish race over the rest of mankind ? It's what your remarks are driving at after all , aren't they ?

Anyway, I have just a question to you referring to your statement :

"Within the last two centuries, we have seen the western literature label the Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine Empire) as "Greek Empire".

Once again this is largely to the inventions and distortions of the western historians of the 19th century, who also falsely ascribed "Greek" ethnicity to the ancient Macedonians. ...

The inaccurate 19th century western historiography needs another major revision, just like the one it already went through regarding the ethnicity of the ancient Macedonians. Otherwise it will continue to be unreliable and biased."

You speak of "19th century western historiography" , of " inventions and distortions of the western historians of the 19th century" which "need another major revision"... These are very self-assured phrases. They suggest that you know the subject you are talking about, don't they ?

It would be therefore a very interesting question to learn what you know in detail about the subject of 19th century Western historiography on Byzantium in the first place ? You sound as if you have read all of it and are competent to discuss details. Have you ever read a single German, French or British scholar of Byzantium from that time ? Or you have never read anyone but just rely on Turkish historical science fiction and propaganda contained in Turkish history school books ?

So to start with name a single 19th century historian known to you and whom you accuse of "inventions and distortions" so that we may see how your abstract claims are related to all the respectable and honest European scholars who have helped resurrect Byzantium from the Ottoman hell and oblivion.

Submitting....

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