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Reader comment on item: Turkey in Cyprus vs. Israel in Gaza
in response to reader comment: Turkey - a perfect Orwellian state and its history books

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Aug 9, 2010 at 06:32

Hi Ianus

>I'd like also to thank you for your help to expose Turkish lies. It's funny to see from how many different angles they can be debunked.

It is not difficult at all to debunk the version of history taught in Turkey and the reason is that the Turks seem to really believe (Just like Muslims believes that history really starts with islam) that history starts with the Turkish invasion of the Byzantine Empire but they forget the old historical concept of Res Ipsa Liquitor and the master of explaining such brilliant historical (as well as legal) concept was the late John Wansbrough in his outstanding lecture to the Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities and the title was "Res Ipsa Liquitor and history and mimesis" (1987 and I urge you to google it and readit) where he compares the extant evidence from his study of the polity of Ugarit of Ras Shamra on the north Syrian coast around 1400BCE and then he compares it with the zero extant evidence that comes to us from al-Hijaz pre 632CE! And that what we really have in the case of islam is only a literary tradition that was written 3 centuries after the Arab invasion of the Middle East! Which means that there really is no extant evidence to support such assertions by Muslims and then compare it with the fact that he is able to reconstruct "what really happened" in the case of Ugarit of Ras Shamra. This really means that the foundation of the Islamic historical tradtion is really very weak

He also stresses the Aristotelian idea to never multiply entities or you will reach the wrong conclusions and in the case of history and the reconstruction of history would be like the old garbage in is garbage out

What I'm saying here is History 101 and it is as basic as it can get but the Turks do not get

You do a good job as we owe it to the victims of the Turks and their brand of imperialism


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