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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), May 3, 2012 at 17:18

arda wrote :

> ... What are you afraid of? None of you accept your bloody history and blame the Turks for everything happened to you. Why don't you talk about how many people killed during the middle ages. Even before that just look at your BLOODY HISTORY!!!<

May I paraphrase the above? You do agree that the Turks perpetrated multiple genocides,atrocities and all possible acts of barbarism but you refuse to admit that explicitly, deflecting our attention to what others have done.Right?

This is a trite and fraudulent argument though. Our libraries are full of books on what was done in the European past. Can you tell me how many freely available books on the Armenian genocide you can find in libraries in Turkey where even a hint at what the Turkish hordes were doing between 1915-1922 is punished with a 3 years' imprisonment if not worse ?

> Most of you know nothing but how to bully people.<

If telling the truth according to you is "bullying people", then may I ask what sort of "people" can feel so "bullied" by being told what the case was excepting some liars with a very bad conscience?

> Look If it wasn't the Turks, Greeks and Balkan nations will not be able to speak their language after 500 years of Ottoman occupation. <

;) Look at the Skull tower of Nis and the Skull Church of Batak - to take just two examples- to see what the Ottoman rule really meant for the Balkans.Your fairy tale of Turks as waging a languistic jihad on behalf of the native Christian nations is indeed amusing.Had no Turk set his foot in the Balkans to exterminate Christian kigndoms ,change churches into mosques,fill the Ottoman slave markets and harems with Balkan slaves and the janissary corps with kidnapped Christian children, all these nations would have preserved their languages and cultures in a much better and purer form and would have been spared a 500-year old nightmare of abject slavery with all the deep psychicological and moral wounds it has entailed.

> They would be probably under Russian control and lost their language and culture.<

What countries controlled by the Russians lost their language and culture? Armenia?Georgia?The Crimean Tatars?Poland?Lithuania?Azerbaijan?... Had the Russians fulfilled their mission of liberation in the Balkans and in Anatolia, no Armenian, Greek and Assyrian genocides perpetrated by the Turks would have taken place. The Christians in the Balkans used to pray in their churches "There is one God in heaven and one Russia on earth". Had there been no Russia , the Serbs ,the Bugarians,the Greeks would have all shared the fate of the Armenians in Western Armenia.

>Read about how Catholics killed Protestants or Protestants killed Catholics.<

When was that?500 years ago?When did the Armenian genocide take place? 97 years ago? And the extermination of Kurds in Turkish Kurdistan? It is going on , isn't it? We studied quite scrupulously and objectively our wars of religion that occurred half a millenium ago.How about free research on the recent genocides in Turkey ?

>What most of you learned after thousand years of your civilization is how to divide people and bully!<

While you Turks have preferred to just enslave, exterminate and/or Islamize them.It's just what your jihadist history is all about ,isn't it ?

>You must have learned that from your ancestors...What did Europeans do when they went to the Americas? Killed most of the aboriginal people living there! What about Africa. Now STOP ... !<

Again, we don't have any problems with our past. If you keep explaining away Turkish crimes by saying you only imitate us, then why don't you imitate us in our approach to our history ? Courage ! We know how many millions of people you have exterminated, forcibly Islamized,Turkified or expelled. Your denying all of that in reality just aggravates your crimes.It shows you are not just mass murderers but also mass liars.

> TURKS LEFT GREECE AND BALKANS, SEE PEOPLE ARE STILL SPEAKING THEIR OWN LANGUAGE AND THEY CERTAINLY HAVE THEIR CULTURE!<

The Turks didn't leave anything. They were expelled by force in course of protracted wars of liberation.

>STOP YOUR ... COMMENTS, JUST REALIZE WHO YOUR ANCESTORS ARE!!!<

Are you making an appeal for me to stop exposing Turkish lies and unexpiated Turkish crimes? Well, you can accuse me of an anti-liar bias. I admit that unlike you I am very biased against lying.However, I don't appeal to you for stop lying. Please go on.Next to your genocides it's perhaps the second best thing you Turks can do with such an enviable perfection.

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