Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Apr 21, 2009 at 17:24
berk akk wrote :
> You say about madrassas the religious schools. FUNNY.
Dear sir first of all it was in history:) There is no maddrasas in today.<
It's funny to see the past which Turkey is so obsessed to hide from the outside world and bury return everywhere with renewed force under new names, in new clothes and new masques. It's also funny to see the Turks so busy making the old look new.
The name "madrasa" disappeared to return under a new name just like Kemal's ban on religious instruction in schools disappeared in 1949. What had been happening in madrasas has returned to "modern" Turkey with tripled and quadrupled force. Islam instruction was at first optional but it turned out that everyone craved for it. Now it's compulsory and no 'guardian" of Kemalism seems to bother to remember Ataturk's ban on Islam instruction which looks now that religious indoctrination begins at the 4th grade of primary school and continues through secondary and high schools as ancient and useless as some forgotten firmans from Mehmed III's time.
The institution once called "madrasa" is as strong as ever in Turkey and works under the codename "İmam Hatip Lisesi" "Higher school (lycée) for imams". There are thousands of these imam schools across Turkey. Imam Erdogan graduated from it. Add circa four thousand official state-run Quran courses and add a few more thousands of unofficial Quran schools to see what is happening in this parody of "secularism".
> But there are christ scools in your country even today. Besides ,in madrassas education was not about marijhuane ,cocain games ,sex crimes,murders ,selfishness but those can bee seen clearly in western idol world. I cant understand your items?<
It was all about the sweet Islam, how to cut off hands and heads in full accordance with Allah's will , why Moslems are superior to us kafirs - "the worst beasts in His sight" ( 8.55) , etc. etc. etc. All great educational stuff to form the great Moslem Turkish mind - a splendid preparation for the great futue of great Islam and the greatest Turkish race.
> Yes according to you everyone is wrong and cant understand you except people who live out of your castle. You well know building huge castles.Who wish to attack EU door and destroy values inside?
Islam using as its Trojan horses Turkey, Kosovo, Bosnia, Albania and the Moslem Fifth Column inside the Western societies. As in the times of Osman Gazi Turkey is slowly reviving its ghazi (=jihadist) memories and traditions which combined with dramatic overpopulation pushes her in the aggressive direction of conquests and expansion. Turkey occupied and Islamized Northern Cyprus within a generation. Why should she stop at the banks of the Maritsa or the Arax?
> This is a nightmare created in some EU members mindis.<
We saw the future in November 2005 as the French Moslems carried out their first intifada on French soil and were storming Paris and other cities. Your mind didn't menage to register the insignificant events, did it ? But why bother? Allah assures that Islam is the sweetest and the only true of all religions, doesn't He ?
>Or these walues is about the subject of killing millions each other in 2nd world war ? <
Did u forget bombarded cities in France,Germany ,poland?Dear sir unfortunately there was nobody from islam and turkish side in those wars where 50 miilion young ,kids and olders were killed. <
What an ahistorical nonsense are you spreading again, Moslem! C. 400 000 Moslems were fighting in various Nazi SS and Police units. Most of them were recruited from the Moslems in the Balkans - Hitler's Kosovo looked as it does today under his NATO imitators - and from the Islamic regions of the USRR. They were notorious for their cruelty and fanaticism.
Turkey signed a treaty of friendship with Hitler four days before he attcked Stalin. Until Stalingrad wild Pan-Turkic fever and propaganda seized Turkey. Voices to join Germany and get a big Soviet swag were becoming louder and louder. Had the Germans crossed the Volga and appeared on the Eastern banks of the Arax, Turkey would have joint hands with Hitler. She declared war on Hitler only when the Russians appeared in Bulgaria. The later claims and demands by Stalin against Turkey had very real causes in the years where Russia was fighting for her very survival and the Turkish grey wolf was getting ready to jump on the victim overwhelmed by the Wehrmacht.
>o before claiming others take a look at the history . I kindly advice you to accept War and crime is not related to religious and nationalist terms but related to underground capital colonists.<
To prove the point you'd need a Ph.D. dissertation. Have your ever written any ?
> With those principles you claim,it is not posibble to compromise other people but morever you cant compromise yourself.<
With your principles instead you're best prepared to whitewash your criminal Turkey and glorify your criminal Islam against the most obvious facts and the most notorious events in their distant and recent past. It's so simple when you refuse to face any evidence, do cheap moralizing and jump from one false or uninvestigated analogy to another. In short ignorance is a potent weapon of yours. It obtains for all Moslems , by the way.
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