Turkish ethnographic zoos
Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Apr 29, 2009 at 16:42
BERK AKK wrote :
>1- It is not my way of calling any one as idiot,imbecille,moron or any other words which you are trying to call me at least indirectly.<
Instead of that I'd love to see either your refutation of any point raised by me or your agreement (rational agreement!!!) with them. But , traditionally enough, you keep moving further and further away from the unpleasant topics.
> 2- I am not responsible for Education system of Turkey.Discussion of this subject is out of the issue. We can have a discuss if u like.<
You may not be responsible for Turkish education system but you seem to have fully absorbed and propagated it. From what you write I infer hardly a single discrepancy between your worldview and the worldview moulded by the Turkish education system. So what exactly shall we discuss, I pray ?
>3-I belong to a comunity a part of mankind .I proud of my values.<
Again "Ne mutlu türküm diyene" ?
>For a compromise ,Your request of identifying myself as you described is regarded from my side as cruel behaviour.Your dicta approach to the subjects are more than fashism .Live with your own limits for compromising.<
In other words you refuse to distance yourself from your forefathers' crimes. And you say "I am proud of my values"... At the same time you reproach me with 'fascism' ? ... Remarkable consistency and logic...
>4-Please read the story of POLONEZKÖY in istanbul .Yes it is a live polon city in istanbul.!!<
Rather an ethnographic zoo , I'd say, to attract the mass tourist and get some political and propaganda advantages from. The Turks like showing off before the naive world how 'multicultural' and 'modern' they are. They like impressing ignorant foreign vistors from both the West and the East. So everybody gets what he wants to see. The Moslems from dar al-Islam see a totally islamized Turkey. The Westerners are told about their favourites - scularism and cultural variety as exemplified by a few ethnographic zoos here and there. Zoos, contrary to the real care for species variety don't cost much, change nothing in the Turkish monoculture but make many powerful people deflect their attention from the real problems of cultural poverty, monotony and intellectual conformism of Turks due to the compund and deadly impact of Kemalism and Islam.
In short, examples like that of Polonezköy remind me of someone showing a pair of polar bears in an African zoo and trying to persuade the visitors that polar bears belong to the natural fauna of Africa.
Turks advertize cunningly places like Polonezköy and this is not the only ethnic zoo they have had for that purpose. Until 1962 they had a Russian village Kazakköy near Lake Mainos (not far from Banderma). Now thanks to the 1939 French-Turkish treaty concerning Alexanfrette they have even one Armenian village - Vakıflı Köyü. What a wealth of cultures ! Why not use this as another brilliant argument against Turkey's involvement in the "so called" Armenian genocide ?
When one reads the Turkish advertisement site on Polonezköy you have submitted all looks so fine and happy. Paradise-like nature, smiling faces, "great" history. One is even tempted to shout "Ne mutlu lehim diyene"!!!... It's only when one looks closer at that 'idyll' of a 'Polish city" in Instabul that things stop looking so optimistic and rosy. 1000 people with mostly Turkish names and hardly a hundred Polish persons. Out of that dwindling number only c. 40 are able to speak Polish and admit their Polish origin , in private conversations complaining that the era of Polish Polonezköy is coming rapidly to an end. Turkification has made tremendous progress. Both administrative measures and economic necessity sped it up. The very name of the village 'Adampol' (from the founder of the village Prince Adam Czartoryski) was forcibly changed to Polonezköy. The inhabitants were forced in 1938 to accept Turkish citizenship or face dire consequences including expulsion. And many migrated indeed so that in the 60-ies only 35 persons lived there. The right to own their land was given to them only around 1968. But soon the land was bought up by very richTurks who are now the overwhelming majority in the village where also the Indian consul has his estate. So a mosque was built in due course in Polonezköy and Islam is the dominating religion in this allegedly 'Polish' village. In the Polish restaurants pork has been recently banned "Because we don't want to scare off our Turkish customers" - a son of the owner confessed. One remembers that pigs were once kept there - as is usual in Poland - but no one does it any longer not to anger potent Moslem neighbours. Prosperity came when the bridges across the Bosphorus and a road to the village were built and rich Turks appeared in the vicinity constructing bungalows and palaces. Prices went up dramatically and are exorbitant. Despite the obvious fact that Poles are a tiny minority here " Polishness" of Polonezköy is being boastfully advertised and sold abroad to uncritical public to attract more and more tourists and improve Turkish dismal image as the classical and grim oppressor of minorities.
> Read the history of it.If u cant find i ll find it for u in english.It must be a lesson to u.Please read ..http://www.polonezkoy.com/index.asp .
My lesson for your lesson ! Now I expect your detailed refutation of what I have exposed.
> Does any turkish city exists in poland? Your borders are iron curtain sir.Noone can enter inside:)
We have c. 5-6 0000 Tatars near Bialystok and that's bad enough as they are more and more influenced by the Saudis (their imam has been trained in Saudi Arabia) and I have no doubt that Pan-Turkic preachers will pop up soon to remind them of their Turkic roots and the elder Turkish brother. We have also a number of Turkish Kurds who have fled Ataturkestan for reasons which if disclosed in full might be very insulting to your angelic Turkishness.
The closest Turkish city we have is Berlin. I was there. A very sobering experience of what the Turk is after.
> 5-It is cruel to say a whole turkish public is guilty of Expulsion of jews from Istanbul which infact not m ore then a Juridical subject and not common for a nation.<
This pogrom was just a trifle for a nation that can boast of the most successful and perfect genocide ever committed. It was another chapter in the tedious book of recurrent Turkish atrocities.
>There are still turkish Flags in many homes of migrated jew families in israel.<
So many Turkish families have "Mein Kampf" ("Kavgam") in their homes. It's an indubitable best seller in Turkey after all.
> But i make you remember jews expulsion from spain to istanbul.<
Why do you think I don't know the official hagiographic Turkish tale ? I simply doubt that becoming a Turkish raya ( dhimmi with no law protection whether Jew or Christian) has made anyone any time happy.
>More examples do you want?<
Yes, I do as all you have adduced so far suffer from a severe deficit of persuasive force , factual accuracy and sense of criticism !
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