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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), May 30, 2009 at 07:14

mutlu =happy wrote :

> The authors Selahi Diker's ideas in his book "And the Whole Earth was One Language" are not original ideas.<

Like everything else in Turkey. It was Ataturk's "original" idea to make up and spread a good fairy tale to glorify the inglorious and destructive Turkish race. Like many of his other lies this lie worked as well.

> In the 18th and 19th centuries his ideas were the most popular ideas in the west.<

How incredible to meet a happy turk so well informed about Europe's Enlightenment and its ideas! Give us more details on your discoveries, happy turk. Don't hesitate to prove that 'the most popular ideas" meant Turkish as mankind's pre-language and the Turk as the parent of all mankind and Ataturk and Turkic Mohammed as its culmination.

> It was told by many academicians that the origin of many languages including sumerian language was central asia and Turkish. <

"Many academicians" ? Who? Sumerian , the oldest documented language of manknd, was identified by Jules Oppert in 1869. No one had known of its existence before. All conclusions are based on linguistic coincidences rather than verifiable genetic continuation.

As many similarities to Sumerian are found in as in Georgian (Sumerian was both an agglutinative and ergative language. Turkic isn't an ergative language), Turkic or Munda (Dravidian) or Austronesian or Sino-Thibetan. These similarities seem to be quite accidental and prove nothing. Anyway, while there is no political pressure put on the other hypotheses, the Turkic origin of Sumerian and Hittite is a highly politicised issue in Turkey. After all Kemal said it was so, therefore it's up to every Turk to repeat it is so. Kemal like Allah knows better, doesn't he ?

How the Turks operate can be seen from a different field. The Turkish word for "iron" ="demir" has a Chinese etymology. The Turks in the Altai/Tien Shan region learned how to produce iron from the Chinese. Now the Turkish 'scientist' finds this word in ancient Chinese and concludes the opposite. The Turks gave this word to the Chinese language, adds a few more etymologies of the same kind and generalizes : "The Turks founded the Chinese civilization". Any Turk reading this nonsense feels happy and his ethno-racist narcissism is gratified.

>This theory was not supporting europe centric view and racism and colonialism and imperialism.<

This is no theory, this is state-sponsored pan-Turkic dogmatic propaganda which is worse than anything known before. It is racist (superiority of Turkic race over all others), colonialist (superiority of Anatolian race within the Turkic race and hence its claim to rule all Turkic peoples) and Turco-centric in the best old barbarian sense. How can a megalomaniac and narcissist Turk admit he's just a vagrant homeless nomadic barbarian that happened to successfully assault and destroy a much higher civilization imposing its abject barbarity upon it as all historical documents dealing with Seljuk/Ottoman inavsions show excellently clearly ?

> So, it was smashed. The book "black athena, the fabrication of ancient greece" is explaining all these in details.<

Can a book by a Sinologist with no special classical education about classical antiquity explain anything relevant? Martin Bernal could produce competent books on world famine, UNESCO programmes and Vietnamese-Chinese relations -his special fields of research- rather than about imaginary Ethiopians founding the Parthenon and importing the blue-eyed goddess Athena to black Greece. [ Have you seen any blue-eyed negroes, happy Turk? Your Kemal had blue eyes and blond hair because he was of Slavonic descent. ]

In short, Bernal's is a book of half-knowledge and wishful thinking. It reflects best the worst things that we have today in academia - silly racial obsessions and racial revisionism.A long time ago in German universities a life-long research and a plethora of small specialised studies were necessary before starting such a project as that of Bernall. Nowadays academia's standards have sunk to this miserbale level. Small wonder it is so much hailed by the ignorant barbarians of all colours and denominations. It has beeb extensively used in every anti-Hellenic and anti-scientific websides written by Turks in different languages to vilify and reject the best documented facts and make of most absurd and idiotic fantasies "historical facts". If you wish I can cite you the links from which you have extracted your nonsensical claims and lies.

By the way, do you know that exposing these lies In Ataturkistan you may be jailed for the sake of your happy Turkishness for a few years ? It's the most important component of your Turkish science after all. When a scientist discovers and publishes something inconvenient for Turkishness, he faces arrest and a show trial. It's how conformism among Turkish "scientists" is achieved and how one produces "important scientists" like Silahi and his ilk.

> It is an excellent example of a "sociology of science".<

Now every pseudo-science is "an excellent example of a "sociology of science" ", isn't it? You Turks have not contributed anything at all to sciences and human progress and are so eager to make us gavurlar (kafirs) forget the obvious truth. Faithful to your nomadic barbarian and Islamic soul you plunder and destroy what little porgress have been achieved by others. Once you you did it in the material world exterminating nations, burning their homes, destroying ancient monuments, converting with a sword , kidnapping and raping native populations to turkify them. Now exactly the same thing is being done by you in the spiritual world. You're barbarians through and through. Western clothing and western slogans you adopt can't hide your primitive, perverted and savage mind. And you demand from us respect for that beastly behaviour.

> Selahi Diker is an important scientist.<

In Turkey perhaps with its inverted 'science' and its notorious ways. Outside Turkey he would be seen as an excentric , and given his political dependencies and tendencies, a very dangerous excentric.

> By using the ancient turkish language he could able to read etrusk writings.<

The ancient Turkic language is first documented by the Orkhon and Yenissey inscriptions. They are dated A.D. 6th-7th century. Etruscan is a millenium or two older. I have never heard his name mentioned anywhere in Etruscologist literature and for a very good reason. No one accepts this nonsense. Mark it! His magnum opus appeared in a very obscure publishing house in Turkey. Strange for such an 'important scientist, isn't it?

By the way, my name "Ianus" is also Etruscan. Ask Silahi to give it a Turkic etymology! It won't be dfficult for him or you won't it, mutlu türk alimler.

PS Ignorance is bliss and you call yourself 'mutlu'= 'happy, blissful'... Isn't there more causal similiarity between the two things than between Turkish and Sumerian ?

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