A Turk preaches on "democracy" - Anatürk
Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Apr 23, 2009 at 11:11
yasemin wrote :
>Not a perfect democracy yet, but we try very hard to be a real democracy, while proceeding on we have to pass through many obstacles and we experiment ups and downs. But we go on.<
Yes, you Turks go on ...just like your Superturk's Ghazi Mustafa Kemal Pasha's best friend Vladimir Ilych Lenin used to advise : "One little step forward, two big steps backwards." ... 'One little step towards democracy, two big steps back to Oriental despotism'... 'One tiny step towards secularism, two huge steps back to total Islamization'...
> We wish the same for every population.<
No, thanks. It's would be a totalitarian nightamre if we had a Turkish-style "democracy" here.
> It is impossible to feel democrat and to stabilise democracy if you wish this only for your population but besides have imperialistic dreams for others.<
No more Pan-Turkic dreams and fevers ?
>It is never honest for a leader to say, it is needed for another country to go and carry democracy to them by force. Democracy is nothing to give. But easy to take by invasion and trying to inslave that nation. This can be done by power, either economic power or gun power. But there can never be anything as; an army goes, ruins that country, kills and get killed sometimes, and in the end that country is saved and turned out to be a democracy! Comic.<
Wow! A concise lecture on Turks' criminal history... Kafiri people live in freedom, have their religion and high civilization. But suddenly a hungry Islamized Turkish wolf arrives and robs, enslaves, destroys, burns cities and villages and moans and cries when he is beaten back and pressed to the wall ... He changes into a 'democrat' by exterminating all of them whom he has robbed and enslaved before and looking at the by-standers shouts pointing at the victim of his barbarity : "Behold the slave ! He tried to rob me of my liberty to live as a wolf and murderer and a Moslem master ! " Comic, yet true!
> Democracy and freedom is something that you want it, learn it and work for it . No one gives it. <
I see... You have to steal it in case of necessity , you have to commit a genocide if you feel this is the right way to conjure up democracy in your 1001 Nights' despotism and to make Turkish people happy , because democracy and happiness justify everything - all like in Dostoyevsky's novel where a crime is necessary to make people happy and promote social progress ...
> Here some persons talk about Ottoman Empire and make accusations.
Some persons? ...No Turks, at least. They would never slander Turkishness , not even if they were paid for doing it! Turks are ALWAYS right ... that's why they are so happy.
>The name is Empire.<
Caliphate+Sultanate= the Sublime Porte
> Those days were like that. Romans, British and many more.<
Wow, How well-informed you are about world history? Perhaps you are also aware of some fundamental differences between the three ?
> Empire is not a democracy, it lives thru invasion.<
The sweet Turkish "democrcay" is an exception. It lives through the holocaust of Smyrna, Pontus, Cilicia, Kurdish villages levelled to the ground, military coups d'etat, show trials, corrupt and criminal governments alternating each other, political terrorism, never ending conspiracies, sheep-like Turkish mentality ...
> But humanity has evolved<
While humanity has evolved , Turkishness has regressed. History is full of sad paradoxes.
> and it is no time to dream about being an empire.<
No ? How lamentable! Turkey might grab Mossul and all its oil reserves in case it became a local empire again ...
> Since it is obvious that the Global Empire is a fairy tale to achieve, and when this will be understood by the horrible dreamers, then I will be waiting for the "so called" UFO's and Aliens from other worlds which are always bad and will come to invade; as the FINAL episode of emperialism. Then what?
Then another grey wolf will appear in Ataturkestan and will assume name Anatürk (Mother of Turks) as Atatürk is strictly prohibited. And Anaturk will lead the innumerable Turkish hordes towards Western and Central Europe to establish a Silver Horde in the former Russian Steppes, the Sultanate of Poland where Jews&Armenians&Greeks&atheists& all anti-Turkish and irreligious and rational elements captured by Anaturk's secularist jihadists will be sent to the known camps to be changed into smoke; the Rhine Caliphate with a few caliphs mutually cutting their throats will fight the heretical self-proclaimed Islamic Republic of France with suprious imam Sarkozy punishing any signs of Islamophobia with death and forced labour in North Africa. While in Central Asia a Greater Turkey will be reconstructed with the Anatolian master race ruling the Turkic peoples of sub-Anatolian race and the Slavonic-Iranian-Chinese subrace...
Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".
Reader comments (530) on this item
Comment on this item
Support Daniel Pipes' work with a tax-deductible donation to the Middle East Forum. Daniel J. Pipes