"Armenian genocide"? None of your business! Stop denying the Aborigines' genocide instead!
Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Apr 19, 2009 at 09:39
berk akk ,
It's not a rare experience to see a thief caught red-handed point at him who has caught him and shout "He's the thief ! Catch him! ". Moslems are expert in it. In vain you can look for a single Moslem crime admitted by Moslems. According to the immutable Moslem logic it's always the accuser who turns out to be the perpetrator and is to blame.
> It is really diffcult to understand racist rhetoric words against a nation.<
Yes, when you're taught all your life that Turks have invented all civilization, Turkish is the ideal pre-language of mankind, the Turkish race is superior in every respect to all the rest of mankind but out of a sudden you meet someone who exposes all these nauseating lies and myths, then it is really hard for a Turk to understand the world, let alone agree with the hard facts.
Instead of understanding and admitting his obvious guilt the Turk is enraged that a former or potential raya (dhimmi) dares speak so disrespectfully of the race that produced Ataturk and all civilization and is Islamic to cap it all !!! True to his ancestral thief's code of behaviour the Turk cries : "Catch the thief ! Stop the racist!"
> Fırst of all constantinapole subjects hapenned centuries ago.<
First, fetih bayram (the celebrations of the Moslem conquest of Constantinople) is celebrated every year on the 29.05. And every year it gains in importance, is more and more splendid and political. It's one of the biggest events in Constantinople with hundreds of thousands of participants , including the ruling caste. I am sure you'll participate this year, won't you?
In 1953 (500th anniversary) it was a fever of mad enthusiasm that seized Turkey with unheard-of solemnity, new mosques, books, poems, new celebrations of the glory of what Ataturk has found to have been a rotten and useless state.
Besides, 1453 is not a date like any other in world history. The epoch that started c. B.C. 753 with the foundation of Rome by two twins came to an end in the sea of blood and rain of bombs. The last remnants of free Eastern Christianity were physically exterminated and what survived was humiliated, enslaved and ruthlessly exploited by Islam. Islam's eternal jihad celebrated one of its greatest triumphs by changing Hagia Sophia into a place of the cult of Allah. What backward and barbarian Islam wasn't able to even imitate, it stole and called "Islamic".
The crime of 1453 created also new Ottoman/Turkish identity that lives on and aspires to revive the Ottoman "glory" at the expense of its former victims. Just like the massacre of Smyrna was the foundation stone for Kemal's Turkey , so the massacres of May/June 1453 was the collective foundation crime for the Ottoman, even mor eimportant than the first jihadist exploits of Ghazi Osman I.
History comes back on very unusual and tortuous paths. It's unwise and counterproductive to reject and forget so many valuable experiences made in the past. The Turks teach us on their breaking with the past. They repeat how "modern", "Westernized" etc. they are. But when one compares the Turk of yesterday and the Turk of today one discovers more similarities than differences, more continuity than real change. Changing a fez for a cylinder hat or jeans doesn't change much.
> 2nd ,Are you native australan? if not what is your bussiness there.<
An interesting piece of Turkish logic. Instead of admitting the extermination of all your Christian minorities you argue that the Armenian genocide is none of my business! It's a private affair of the Armenians. The Turks have nothing to do with it either, do they?
You Turks can't even imagine that one can be interested in those things out of curiosity. How many times have I heard I am a Greek or a Kurd or an Armenian ? That's why - the Turks went on - I am against great and virtuous Turkey. The Turk is not allowed to even imagine there could be something wrong with his Turkey. It's a criminal offence in Ataturkestan, isn't it ?
But , frankly, the conflict between you Turks and us Europeans is the central and most critical issue in the whole European and perhaps world history. And this conflict goes on unabated. Under 'secularist' camouflage you Turks have become more Islamic now than you were under Mehmet II. And due to rabid jingoism taught by Ataturk, reinforced by Islam and increasing overpopulation, you're more aggressive and determined to export Turkish imperialism than ever before. And you're as dangerous to America as you're to Greece or Armenia.
> What happened to aborgines there.?<
So now the Turks pretend play the comedy of altruism and philanthropy? When asked about the fate of Armenians they retort " What happened to aborigines?" ... Yes, indeed, the British committed a genocide of aborigines and persistently deny it and jail, terrorize and vilify anybody who dares doubt the "official"(=the only admissible ) version. They even assassinate aborigine journalists who write about the subject, don't they? They are so unlike the brave Turks who admit and repent everything, aren't they ?
> You gave museum lands to them of their own land:)? or this land given to you by your god? is it a promised land to you?...<
Speaking of god and promised lands , don't you Turkish defenders of the the genocide of the aborigines in Australia assert that the Aborigines emerged as a branch of the great Turkic race as Turkish historical maps show ?
> historical stories is not a science to judge people.<
It's your past record that tells me who you are and what I can expect from you. If I don't know your past I don't know you. That's why it's so important to know the past and particularly the part so zealously hidden and denied by you. Reading your statement I recalled a recidivist criminal who assured me : " My past? You can't judge me by my past! It's unfair! "
> be also informed that Brain clearing is not proudable thing. It is against humanity and it is a crime..>
Doctor, heal thyself! So now Moslems are against brain-washing ? Soon we'll learn from you that you are in favour of flushing your Quran down the toilet and using Ataturk's works as toilet paper. After all they are nothing but manuals for barin-washing, terrorism and racism.
> 3rd..Joining of turkey to Europian community is not the monopoly of someone or a country ... <
I know. It's a private matter of some burocrats in Brussels and some generals and the sultan in Ankara. It"s how things in Turkey are done. Why bother about what people might think of this ? It might only spoil the whole grand scheme.
> while be also informed that not all of turksh people dying crazy for EC...<
Why not give them a chance to have it their way? I am for it.
Anyway, aren't they against the EU because a Turk can't stand not being a master but remaining equal to others , especially the kafirs? With Ataturk's teaching of Turkish racial superiority and Moslem supremacist obsessions the Turks prefer to build their own Pan-Turkic empire where they will be the masters and not just a third-rate backward member of the EU to which they have nothing to contribute.
> Therefore dont be worry that not all people in earth willing to live in your jelaous world. If this not satisfies you, you can built a wall around your country and live happily inside forever...<
Speaking of jealous worlds and living happily, the Turk is looking for happiness both in his atavistic past and futurist conquests. His imagination is caught by the happy-making ballad :
"This march is going on. It will continue until the Turkic Armies' parade on the foothills of Altai and Tien-Shan mountains where the souls of their ancestors stroll."
Don't you like the sweet songs and dreams by Hüseyin Nihâl Atsız too ?
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