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On "killing the infidels"

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Submitted by S.G (Netherlands), Jan 6, 2007 at 22:25

When I see all the terrorists in the world I immediately ask why it is in islam?

And I find the answer to myself that there are several quranic verses that call people to do so.

- How much of the terrorists claim to be muslims? Almost all.

- Take non-muslim terrorists, they are confined to only their area - they are not international threats.

- All jihadists claim to be martrydoms in the name of allah when they kill. But other terrorists do not relate it to their God or god.

- Jihadist terrorists purposely target civilians - not by chance. And they need it to be horrible.

- Jihadist terrorists do their "holy murder" every day if it is suitable for them. But non-muslim terrorists do it in a rare case(almost rare as compared to the jihadists).

- Many muslims do not discouarge such terrorism - i can say there are many governments who see the jihadists as "true muslims" and they are proud of them.

- For jihadists all non-muslims are seen as enemies. But other terrorists know that thier enemy is one or some more groups( usually thier governments).

- jihadists enjoy killing - they can not live with out it. But other terrorists are eager to end the violence if theier questions are answered.

- Jihadists usually claim to be good islams - they know the quran. Other terrorists do not know anything about thier religion(usally).

- Jihadists have a popular public support world wide. But non -muslim terrorists are not accepted by thier community.

As a result jihadists live peacefully within the community but non muslim terrorists do not have a safe place in their community. PLEASE LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE!

- Jihadists usually have spiritual leaders who teach them the quran, and hence tell them, and show the verse to them(if you will) that it is acceptable to fight a " holy" war although war -> killing can never be holy whatsoever verses are attached to it.

- Usually we find even people converted to islam under the umbrella of jihadists. They begin to believe in killing when they become converts WHAT IS THE GROUND OVER THERE?

- I have (almost) never seen or heared a peaceful demonstration in the muslim world if it is against the west. But I expect every muslim to be patient and peaceful. Actual things show us that no demonstration ends atleast without burning the flags. But just not flags: they always curse the non-muslim and openly declare killings "... Behead them.." . In expressing thier disagreements, there are always violences. Even the muslims in the west. This shows us that the problem in the muslim world is not lack of education but some common principle inside shouting " kill them".

- In islam I have never heared of giving mercy to some one who has done wrong to you. It is all about " a holy killing" -> KILLING? HOLY?

- I f a suspected terrorist is arrested almost all muslims are offended - they say. They want the terrorist to go free? If you ask them as to why such radicalism is happening the answer is always the same "because of the American policy." Why are the spiritual leaders teaching radicalism? because of the American policy.

- Why does a train burn in England/ because of America! Why in Thailand? because of America. Why in germany? because of America. Why in the air plane? All because of the American policy.

- And why in Baghdad muslims are killing each other? A sad news to watch. Because of American! Attacking every one to pay the costs of American policy - a common understandin in the jihadist world.

- Why islam calls to kill a man/woman when he/she is converted to another religion? Maybe because of the American policy?! Can they kill some one's faith by killing the person? Or is that because allah has ordered them to "kill the infidels" because they are infidels? IS THAT NOT THE TRUTH? If allah has ordered them to kill anyone converted to another religion, then why do you say it is taken out of its context? It is in its context. An example of mis interpretation is the following:

- In a non muslim country, anyone has the righ to chose his/her religion. Then someone is converted to another religion. But it was not possible to kill him. even the muslims are convinced that they can not kill his faith by killing him and they let him go/free/ hoping that he will come back to islam. What a wonderful muslim society who gives you the freedom to beleive or not to belive because they can not change your mind by force. Here comes the point: the muslim in other countries oppose this decision.they say he must have been killed because he has insulted islam... Who has misinterpreted the principles of islam. Those who freed the infidel!

Those who let the convert free have misinterpreted islam. the convert must have been killed according to islam law. So, "kill the infidel" is over there - in the heart of it!

- Don't blame mis-interpretation of the quran for the disturbed image of the terrorists. It seems to the contrary. The mis-interpretation used to help to make people moderate. But when they learned the quran, when they knew more about it they became radicals -> and then they turned out to be jihadists. They evolved to extremism when they knew their religion. But to the people who are "weak " muslims are still peaceful and lovely.

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