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In the Bible, Billions of the non-believers have and will be slain

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Submitted by Keith Williams (United States), Mar 28, 2009 at 00:11

Hi Berenika,

Thanks for replying to my comments. You gave a pretty interesting analogy of comparing an egg to God. Where you lost me were the three Gods in one part. Of course I don't agree with that because that cannot be found in any of God's revelations (Jewish/Christian Bibles or the Islamic Qur'an). I agree that it does explain the Christian doctrine of the trinity which I must remind you is not in any scriptures. You wrote: "So too, you have God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ) and God the Holy Spirit." I have never seen or heard of this anywhere. I may have heard of something like "God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit" if that is what you are alluding to but when you add the "God" next to Jesus and the Holy Spirit then that is not scripturally, Biblical or Quranically correct. That is the doctrine part that you added to the scripture.

God is not the actual father of Jesus. The Bible and Quran both say that Jesus had no father. Remember, Jesus was a immaculate conception and his mother Mary was a virgin. Now, let us look at Adam. God created Adam so why is it so hard to accept that he created Jesus without a father when he created Adam without a mother or father. The prophet Jesus followed exactly the commands of the God and gave the message from the God. He called himself the Son of Man. He gave the same message as the prophets before as well as the last prophet Muhammad.

You also wrote: "a hypocrite ... the only sin that Christ refused to forgive."

From what I've read, there is one sin that God will not forgive. It is the unforgiveable sin that is quoted in the Bible and Qur'an. It is so great a sin that he gave many commandments concerning it. For example, Thou shalt not have any God but me. In Qur'an "no God but God". Disbelief is that eternally unforgiveable sin. If you die without repenting and asking for forgiveness then it would be too late. God willing, he may forgive them for that.

Jesus said:

Matt 12:31-32

"Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

NKJV

Allah says in the Qur'an,

Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin most heinous indeed] (An-Nisaa' 4:48).

Those who knowingly and willingly worship anything or anyone but God and who dies without repenting will not be forgiven for that.

Rev 14:9-11 Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice,"If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name." NKJV

Those who invoke not, with Allah, any other god, nor slay such life as Allah has made sacred, except for just cause, nor commit fornication, and any that does this (not only) meets punishment. (But) the Penalty on the Day of Judgment will be doubled to him, and he will dwell therein in ignominy. Unless he repents, believes and works righteous deeds, for Allah will change the evil of such persons into good, and Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful] (Al-Furqan 25:68-70).

You said, "
A faith, such as Islam that calls for the death and destruction of all non-believers I find must contain some error and cannot be the truth" Well, what do you have to say about the book of revelation???
Does it not call for the wrath of God on all non-believers???

Revelations 6: 10And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?

Now for the final wraths to come:

Revelations 19: 11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

16And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

17And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;

18That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

19And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

20And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

21And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.

As you can see, there are millions and maybe billions of non-believers slain in the past and future.

I can also give you many examples from the old testament but it seems that many are scared or something to read the old testament. There is much killing of non-believers in there. I find that most don't read the old testament and only focus on the new testament and disregard that last book of the new testament where the wrath of God against the Satan and all non-believers comes to a head. It seems that you disregard all of this and claim that "A faith, such as Islam that calls for the death and destruction of all non-believers contains some error and cannot be the truth" That does not make sense to me because when I open the Bible I see many similiarities. Please explain what you mean because I see striking similarities between the two faiths in this regard. In fact, it seems to me that the Bible has many many more slaying of non-believers than Qur'an to come to think of it, so for you to tell me that Islam is in error because it says that the non-believers will lose while the Bible says the exact same thing is very confusing to me.

So, do you not see any similarity with Christianity and Islam in regards to God's laws and what will happen to the non-believers before and after the judgment???

I would not wish the wrath of God on anyone. Praise the God for his mercy and grace.

You also wrote: : I will use the US legal system to keep the Sharia out of the US legal code.: To late my friend. Most of the Jewish legal codes are identical to Islamic codes. I believe that Sharia is already in the U.S. legal code since that code is based on some of the Jewish and British systems which were based from some of the Islamic systems from the Middle East and Ottoman systems. Don't forget the Islamic Golden ages where Baghdad was the center of all and Islamic renaissance where many Jewish and Islamic scholars worked together to develop those systems that we use today began and those systems came and spread from. Some U.S. legal codes are very Islamic indeed. One prime example whom you can research is Jewish philosopher from Islamic countries and universities who was greatly influenced by great Islamic scholars is Maimondes.

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