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Submitted by ahmadzafire (United States), Oct 5, 2007 at 19:35

islam is a cult, here's evidence

here are some things that police authorities uses to identify a cult

- single authority - unlike distributed power of modern organizations or religions, cult leaders totally overshadow other leaders within their organization and exhibit lack of trust to members (muhammed, ayatollahs, imams) = Christianity preist,decons,revs alike talk about eachother different christians sects, have no trust among eachother, look at the pope...do you know how many christians can't stand him or catholics..please..then maybe christianity is a cult!!!!! i dont think so...

- they always claim to be in unique direct contact with God= What and christians don't please all i hear is that one christian group is better then the other because God said so. many christians alike talk about jevouah witnesses as if they are not christians because they may worship different, christians again talk about the catholic faith saying that is like the mob with one leader in charge and calim they are not true christains.

- sexual misconduct with many female members (muhammed, as well as david koresh from the waco sect)= again look at the presit around the world especailly in the catholic church having sex with young boys, res and decons being caught in scandals of adultary.

- grandiose promises which make followers feel very significant in history (muhammed told that islam would conquer the world and muslims will rule over anybody else)= everytime you turn to a christian tv show radio station you see that clearly christians saying that God will help maintain christianity and help christians prevail. Dont this sounds right????

- they demand major ongoing financial contributions from members (muslims are required to donate for the ummah, not any charity, just for muslim charities) WHAT!!!!!PLEASE muslims are required to give zakat which is charity and it dont have to be in the form of money but help the poor,orphans,being good role models etc. while christians only ask for money period. little story my kids were going to a christian daycare one of the holiness faith and for their gradutaion at the church. The pastor ask for donations for the church fund the help with build a additionl section. well after the donation plate went around she told everybody to pass the plate back around because that wasn't enough money. now the people gave what they could if any why tell them to give more. My thought if you wanted more then have a bake sell or something to bring more money into the church but don't break the church people pocket...that greed.

- they claim that evil sinister forces attempt to subvert them - the devil, the government, etc. A sense of paranoia helps keep faithful followers. The tend to say anyone not with us is against us. (no need to explain, muslims are victims in their own head) =Now this you have a point ....but you are judging islam by what islamic terrorist say or think. many muslims around the world don't think this but do undrstand that the government do keep issues away from the pubilc eye which they should let be known. but then they would have to many of its people asking questions. like the us military, when we are set to deploy and are no told were we are going or why. it's just like you are going to war fight to stay alive and you'll come back home to your family if your lucky. this is called OPSEC operation security. never know where your going or why but once your there then your mission begans.

- Many cults claim that a big event is just around the corner (muslims claim of the mahdi or any other armageddon that's going to come)= muslim claim the same as christians that the messaih jesus christ(pbuh) will come at the end time to judge all humanity..please if you don't know this then your just making up lies to down a faith you don't have no understanding of period.

- requirement for unconditional trust - they tend to demand extreme loyalty unquestioning faith and do not tolerate open criticism of their ideas (typical attitude of muslims, no enquiry, no criticism)= again you will find christains all over the world who are close minded and don't want to listen or hear anything other then what they have already in their minds. yes many muslim do this as well but guess what thats their opinion. how many christian say trust eachother christians brothers and sisters? millions

- they generate extreme wealth at expense of poorer followers but are unwilling to submit to 3rd party disclosure and audits (no wonder that muhammed at its time was very wealthy as today many saudis and religious muslim figures in power)= this one you might have a point because these people were the poor of poor from the dessert and if you go to saudi arabia today. it is like something out of heaven. i mean how they live...everything is out of gold floors,walls bathroom toilets. but in the koran it says this is a signn that the world will be coming to a end and christ (pbuh)return.

- encouraging members to date dmarry only fellow members (muslims must marry other muslims or people willing to convert)= NO YOU WRONG AGAIN!!!! im not screaming at you so don't take it that way but just making it known. muslims say that it is good to marry people of the book meaning christian,jews and anyone that is human with good intenions. because we are all God creations.

- pressuring members to recruit new members (every muslims has the duty to convert others, unlike any other religion) wow!! your ready have hate in your heart because your quote are not facts at all. in the koran it clearly state to be kind to christians and human being and dont try to convert them by force. but if they want to convert it will be his or her own decision. so what do you call jevoauh witness that are christian going around to people house every sunday preaching the word of God and trying to convert other faiths and different christian groups to follower their ways????

- teaching members that their church is the only true church (typical of muslims)= christianity, catholic,jevuaoh witness,holiness must i go on???

- making attendance of all meetings compulsory (obsession of muslims with going to mosque, not only for prayers, obsession with daily rituals, fastings etc)=christians fast, have prayer service twice sundays morning and afternoon, thursday, ash wednesday,palm sunday,easter i know these are holidays they are`required to go to church also. whats wrong with that????

- disciplining members who question the authority of leaders (nobody question muhammed behaviour)= why did the catholic church kick mother teresa out because she question their authority.

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as you can see islam is a cult, not a religion, all the other religions might happen to behave as ONE or 2 of the above, not ALL of the above like islam= you claim islam is a cult but many if not all the thing you mentioned...christianity does the same and islam got many of the ways from christainty.

Islam don't claim christian are bad or christianity is wrong but all is said that the bible has lost note books and been revised many times over which make it not to authenic. I dont down any faith but just show the truth. all people are not good regardless of faith and the only way we will be rid of them is the end time when christ(pbuh) returns...susan if i ask you to go to a website and watch this speech of this christian pastor turned muslim will you? now dont look at it as bias but listen to his words, he will explain a lot better than i can on the web. he points out problems with islam and muslim as well as christianity. this is what true islam is about. all humanity getting along.

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