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To Rayes: Why do you avoid answering the questions Oliver has directed at you? Part II

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Submitted by Plato (India), Nov 12, 2007 at 11:35

>>Please Learn Islam from Islamic books, you are reading Islamic books from www.faithfreedom.org

or jihadwatch.org. and you are refering their books. I will clear you one thing for your doubts. Just buy one Holy quran translation of yousuf Ali or Picktall and learn Islam. you are learning Islam from Robert spencer or warner's books, or any other venomous writers against Islam.<<

Mr. Rayes please tell your readers what are the errors in what jihadwatch and faithfreedom tell us about Islam. Instead of merely stating that these spew venom against Islam you must be able to pinpoint some of the venom that the sites pour out.

>>Can we find an explanation for the great universe? Is there any convincing interpretation of the secret of its existence? We realize that no family can function properly without a responsible head, that no city can prosperously exist without sound administration, and that no state can survive without a leader of some kind. We also realize that nothing comes into being on its own.<<

You have given a silly kind of simile. How on earth can you compare a human family's functioning to the universe's? You ask if we have an explanation for the universe. You forget that human's have begun wondering about the universe only for a few thousand years and the universe has existed for more than 10 billion years.

In that time we have explained things for which we had no explanation. The evolution and death of stars, the beginnings of the universe up to very close to the moment it burst forth.

Scientists have shown convincingly that unlike the Koran says the sun does not set in a muddy pool. Humans also now know that sperm does not arise near the backbone, unlike what the Koran states. We know that the sun and moon are not in a race across the sky as the Koran tells us. That the stars are not there as missiles to chase devils any school girl will tell you. We also know that the sky cannot break into pieces and fall to earth.

The explanation the Koran gives is no explanation at all. Because the universe exists there should be a creator. But then ask yourself how or why the creator came into existence. If you say the creator is self-existent that so can the universe.

Give us infidels a few thousand more years and we will give you an explanation for the great universe. And the explanation will be very different from what the Koran reveals.

>>Moreover, we observe that the universe exists and functions in the most orderly manner, and that it has survived perhaps billions of years. Can we, then, say that all this is accidental and haphazard? Can we attribute the existence of man and the whole world to a mere chance? Man represents only a very small portion of the great universe, and if he can make plans and appreciate the merits of planning, then his own existence and the survival of the universe must also be based on a planned policy.<<

Do you think that by asking a few rhetorical questions to which you think there are obvious answers we will be convinced that a creator exists. For instance you ask: Can we, then, say that all this is accidental and haphazard? Your answer is obviously no.

But my answer is yes. Any time a meteor or asteroid could strike the earth and destroy it or end most life as it did the dinosaurs about 60 million years ago. A disease like sars can wipe out millions of people. Are these also Allah's great planning feats?

>>This means that there is a designing will behind our material existence, and that there is an extraordinary power to bring things into being and keep them moving in order.<<

The conclusion does not follow from the questions you have asked and made an attempt to answer.

>> In the world there must be a great force in action to keep everything in order. In the beautiful nature there must be a Great Creator who makes these great pieces of art and produces everything for a special purpose in life.<<

Rayes, since you have convinced yourself that there is some great power have you ever asked what kind of power this is, evil or good? Would a good force allow children to suffer the pain of diseases, the disasters of tsunamis, floods. Or are you convinced that these poor children suffer because their parents indulge in forbidden sins like casual sex, sodomy etc? Your great god also takes great pleasure in destroying whole towns and communities: 17:16-17, 19:98, 22:45, 21:6, 28:58 (this for being thankless for its means of livelihood!), 33:25-27 (Allah celebrating the slaughter and enslavement of the Banu Quraiza).


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