69 million page views

Tactics of desperation: When all else fails, repeatedly call opponent a "communist"

Reader comment on item: How to End Terrorism:
in response to reader comment: lack of logic

Submitted by a Filipino liberal (Philippines), Dec 28, 2006 at 22:26

"1) because the opposite of communist is capitalist, not rightist."

Oh really? Then why did you call me a "deluded leftist to the core", rather than a "deluded communist to the core"? Proven wrong by your own argument - man that hurts.

You keep boasting in your posts about how much you know about history and sociology and whatever, blah blah blah, rant rant rant, yada yada yada, but you know what? If you knew anything about the subjects you claim to know so much about at all, then you would know that just as communism is a leftist (that is to say, left-of-center, stupid) ideology, capitalism is a rightist one. Therefore, to say you're a deluded communist is correct.

By the way, fascism and Nazism are right-wing ideologys too, albeit extreme ones. That's something conservatives like you are well and painfully aware of, so you try to distance yourselves from it as much as possible (hence the right-wing media inventing the term "Islamofascists").

"2) communism has failed, so you are a deluded commie that hopes is a system that failed everywhere and brought misery, both financial wise and moral-wise. Free market and enterprise brought prosperity."

At least you demonstrate logic, albeit sprinkled with personal attacks (very illogical, that) and complete nonsense, sometimes in your arguments. I notice, however, a certain tactic you like to use, and all the more because you have used it repeatedly. In fact, it seems to make up the cornerstone of most of your arguments, which is why if it were to be destroyed, guess what would happen to them?

You keep calling me a "communist". In fact, so many times by now that it's already rather amusing, to ay the least. I believe I already told you before, not that you listened, that I'm not a communist, I'm a socialist liberal. They are different. Although, I think now that I get your logic. What you're trying to say is that all leftist ideologies are the same, as they probably all look the same to you. Of course, we know by now that you don't see very well. My question is, if that's the case, shouldn't all right-wing ideologies be considered the same too. How about if I put fascism and capitalism on the same level? Cause that's what you're doing.

Of course, you're wrong. Communism is an extreme leftist ideology, and I don't agree with all of its precepts, like the suppression of religion and the need for a totalitarian government. I prefer to follow Leon Trotsky, who said "Socialism needs democracy like a human being needs oxygen". Of course, you won't believe me, and you'll continue arguing that I'm a communist, at which point you'e not merely laughable, you're pathetic. Who should know more about my beliefs, you, or me? If I were a communist and believed in it as strongly as you say I do, shouldn't I then declare it openly?

Lastly, "free market and enterprise brought prosperity"? Now that's a laugh. No, it's not me you should be telling that. Why don't you tell the 3 billion plus people living below the poverty line that? They're the ones you should be telling, not me. Why don't you tell them, too, that the system is perfect, and that if tjhey're poor it's their fault for being lazy? If you actually believe that, you're even dumber than I thought, and that's saying something. If you actually believe that BS, then you're displaying deluded blind faith in capitalism just as bad as what you accuse me of displaying for communism.

"because you know nothing of history. Already proven twice."

Sadly, it was not proven anywhere except in your addled mind. Sorry, try again later.

"Prove to me communism is the real way by moving to north korea, and reply from there. All the other fluff you write is of no interest."

"Fluff", huh? That's your excuse since you have no answer for it. Sorry, try again later.

"The best way to convince others of your ideas is to prove them on yourself. But you prefer to sit in the fat and rich western area countries. How good it is to be hypocritical."

Whatever made you think that I'm in a Western country? I'm here in the Philippines, fool. Surprises you, doesn't it? Like, "OMG, they have Interrnet access there!" God, people like you make me laugh. They are fat, though, you got that right.

I'm sure you should know a thing or two about being hypocritical, since you're the biggest one I've seen so far, and I've seen a lot. Strangely, they were all conservatives.

"Because in my spare time, since I have already dedicated years and years of study time ago, I like to show to deluded communists how their favourite system has failed everywhere and I am amused when they are faced with the brutal truth to run away or pretend to laugh at others when in reality, they are the ones to be laughed at."

You must have lots of spare time. So that's why you're so prolific on this forum. You must be really bored. Even funnier, you think you're actually proving me wrong, except for one tiny little problem - I'm not a communist. Sorry, try again later.

Submitting....

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

Comment on this item

Mark my comment as a response to Tactics of desperation: When all else fails, repeatedly call opponent a "communist" by a Filipino liberal

Email me if someone replies to my comment

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

See recent outstanding comments.

Follow Daniel Pipes

Facebook   Twitter   RSS   Join Mailing List

All materials by Daniel Pipes on this site: © 1968-2021 Daniel Pipes. daniel.pipes@gmail.com and @DanielPipes

Support Daniel Pipes' work with a tax-deductible donation to the Middle East Forum.Daniel J. Pipes

(The MEF is a publicly supported, nonprofit organization under section 501(c)3 of the Internal Revenue Code.

Contributions are tax deductible to the full extent allowed by law. Tax-ID 23-774-9796, approved Apr. 27, 1998.

For more information, view our IRS letter of determination.)