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Submitted by B. Williame (Belgium), May 14, 2008 at 03:22

I'll respond by quoting and then adding my reply between ( ).

1) The Dogs are still not clean (nice, so let's change that as it isn't any more applicable to this date?!?)

2) check Hadith two, when Mohammad asked by Gabriel, the signs of the End, he said the barefooted people (Cowboys and Bediouns) competing in building High Rise building... there is more but that is enough for now(Cowboys where wearing boots, not bare footed, Hadith is lesser then the Quran, so also less correct, no?)

3) Correct, if it was not for the Arabs, the sciences of today would have been delayed. remember that one of the achievements of Mohammad is Islam in the World, moral and social teachings.(Incorrect, the sciences of today would still be what they are, the inventions where made by others then arabs, if the spreading of them wasn't done by arabs an other would have done it. The 10 commandments where before mohammed and they hold moral, etc teachings... again no particular achievement exept the violent upholding of them.)

4) The Hadith is a second degree to the Quran, but we still have to look at it as reference. because there are more explanations of our way of life. for example, the prayers, how to do it, how to make ablution alm giving %, and many things. then God said in the Quran.( So the Hadith has right of existance because it explains in it's own manner the Quran? The Quran is the perfect book How dare you add your own interpretations to it? Your no TRUE Follower of ALLAH, Only the Q'uran holds the real truth... at least as for the REAL muslims, sorry sTs, your on the wrong path and you'll find out sadly after you die, but I'll try to educate you as much as I can thanks to what I learned allready on this site from Imams)

"What the prophet brought you take it and what he forbid you to do, don't do it"

(nice, words, but it should be "What Allah brought, you take and what Allah forbid you to do, don't do it" The words of the prophet came from Allah so only Allah has to be followed here)

People (specially in far areas) read the Quran in wrong way of reciting and they put verses in different locations, but the contents and meanings the same. so Othman when he learned what the far people do, he decided to make a standarisation of the Quran and a reference for all publications in the future.( And in this manner changed/standarized the Holy Book of Allah/Q'uran, I woudn't give them any rewards for doing so in the least)

It was the same Quran, but the verses were put in wrong places. This is not in Mecca or Medina, but in far areas such as Iraq and Persia.(What do you think would have happend to the bible, if you call Iraq far away from Mecca and Medina, how would the bible not suffer from Israel to the vatican? Honestly based on what?)

5) Plato said many chapters did not start, but in fact there is only one chapter,(Still not adding any more right to the first claim that it all started with)

6) Sunnah is the works, deeds and says of mohammad collected later by the four scholars I told you about (Bukhari, Muslim, Termezy and Nisa'i), It is Hadith plus deeds and Mohmmad's way of life.(How many religious books does Islam have? I mean you got Hadiths, Sunna and Qu'ran, are there more? And why do you have/need them?)

7) I know little about Buddhism, you never know, he may have been a prophet. (He may have been many things, but "may" is different from IS. Why not do some research, I invite you to do so.)

because God said , "there is not a nation on earth but We have sent a reminder to them"

( Really? let's see, did the Gauls have 1, did the Indian Americans have 1? Did the aboriginal Africans have1? Does the West have 1? Come on, Jesus, was a Jew, most prophets where jews, Muhammed (PBUH) was the only arab? you can't say the aboriginals in Australia had 1....

So I'll correct your words a bit for you: Because SOMEBODY said:" there is not a nation on earth but We have sent a reminder to them" Let's just say that this message was limited by the speakers knowledge of the worlds nations, no?

Regards,

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