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in response to reader comment: Islam can defend itself, no need for us to defend it

Submitted by B. Williame (Belgium), Apr 24, 2008 at 03:51

Ok, now you've done it...

I'll give you some answers to your questions and some questions for you to answer.

Defend Islam?

what is there to defend?

Secondly, How I came to this conclusion about Islam?

Form personal experiences, from what I see and hear, from what translations I read of the Koran. Are there more sources by which men can learn from Islam then these?

(and rest asshured I'll see if they don't fall under any of the cathegories I just gave you)

Why insert Islam in every topic? Because the main TOPIC is about Islam and other religions. Not religions in full. If you keep talking more and more in generalisations without examples, what are you then talking about? Perhaps the loss of the main subject?

The past bad behavior of Catholics is thanks to their past leaders and followers.

The past bad behavior of Christians is what? They did oppose to the rule of Catholics, where are those muslims who oppose to the bad behavior of some of their sub branches? If none, guess they all must agree and logicly are as evil as those suicide bombers youre all so full about telling that they aren't real Muslims. Why? Because Muslims don't riot, don't go worldy and organized protesting against those groups who do the killing in the name of your religion. What proof do you give us westerners?

That we get riots when expressing our rights/freedoms.

That we can get mugged, killed and raped when not following Sharia in our own country's and that NO Muslim organization would take action against these deeds unless Islam is targeted by the VICTIMS. And the action The western world has seen is not against the evil doers but against the victims!?!

Said it before, can't throw away the good with the evil.

But Islam is making it look as if their evil outweighs the good by far.

Let's take the NT in the bible... Are there insults towards Muslims? (don't think so , there weren't any back then.)

Are there call to arms, orders to defend your self with violence, asking for convertion if needed by force, rapes, killing, asking to give 'spoils of war' to any one, etc...

Nope, haven't found any yet. Don't take The OT to prove a point about Christians, As Christian implies followers of Christ and not of Mohammed(Koran) or Abraham(OT).

The written basis of their faith is non violence. (NT)

The written basis of Islam faith is.... (Koran)

When asked to prove from text of Koran that they are peacful... you get what? 1, 2 bits of text?

When Plato and/or others show 5 or even more parts where there are insults, and violence. And those are more recent then those 1 or 2 who talk about peace... AND as I was told Islam considers that the most recent are more important then those earlier... There isn't much peacfullness left in the Koran as so called basis for Islam.

Not condemming Islam all together, but just telling you what I learned from Islam religion until now.

I stil have more questions about it, but those I hope will be answered by Imans of Islam... As I consider them to be a good source for info about there religion.

Islam books dissapearing from shelves? Yeah, I'm not surprised, but let me tell you, when facing a possible unkown enemy. Smart people start informing them selves about this possible enemy. Starting with the following questions: What is Islam? Is it a threat to my way of life? etc...

And they might end with the following conclusions:

- Not of importance for me.

- Hah, it'll never happen here.

- Darn, this is terrible.

- Hmmm, I might better convert(hide) and enjoy my faiths benefits of beating my wife, marrying multiple females and hiding behind this faith where most politicians are bending for.

- or others as I'm not all knowing.

Hmm "100s entered islam immedialty"... guess what I might think about them?

Why do Muslims hide behind past crimes of Katholics and think it's an excuse for the WAY more recent crimes done by Islam?

At least you brought us back on the main topic... Islam and other faiths.

Don't know if I need to congratulate you now?

You can answer that question as well if you like.

Submitting....

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