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For Harrak poor Mulism education and where is your evidence?

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Dec 3, 2006 at 17:20

My dear Harrak you are nothing but, as your Allah would say, a munafiq and kadhab and jahil! Oh you can go and ask Mr. Naik (oh the naik thing again) but I doubt that he knows any Arabic after all his last name is naik!

You wrote:

> and especially you claim (that the greek learning was translated to Syriac then to Arabic by Hunein and the Bukhtishos) (which is partly true) by non-Arabs and non-Muslims

"partly true"?

This is what you wrote. Then provide us readers with names of Arabs or even non-Arab Muslims that translated such work or you are munafiq wa kadhab wa jahil! I will be waiting! And let me help you they do not exist!

So you come to this forum and you declare that Muslims translated the Greek "philo and mytho" (sic) not realizing the following

1. Your Arabic is just as poor as your French, and your English syntax and your command of historical research is poor and bogus.

2. Now you also realize that Muslims did not translate neither Greek mythology/drama nor Greek philosophy and do you why now? Because they had no interest in either one and added to all this is the concept of the dictotomy of:

wahy/tanzeel vs. falsafa/tafkeer 3aqli

Even the likes of Ibn Sina had to deal with such bogus Muslim dichotomy.

Now you know that your claim is just plain bogus and betrays your total ignorance of the subject matter..

3. Then you add your funny "foot notes" which was nothing but bogus. I would like to know wher I can find such bogus foot notes in let us say "The Iliad."!

4. You also did not realize that Arabs did not translate anything not from greek and not from any other language because the Arabs were not interested in the least in the languages or cultures of the countries that they invaded and the civilizations that they destroyed and like I said thay only wanted to collect the jizya, rape, pillage, enslave etc...and then state that these crimes were done in the name of their Arabian God Allah.

It is your poor ancestors that were brutalized by the Arabs and had to pretend to be wannabe Arabs but thank God(s) they kept their own language (Urdu?) despite of Islam and Arabic! I guess old civilizations are not conjured away not by Islam or by Arabian imperialism.

Did you ever ask yourself why did your ancestors not abandon their Urdu for the language of the Arabs? What do you think our dear Harrak?

But again these civilizations that were invaded by those Arab barbarians were not conjured away and one of those days your decendants will reject the religion and imperialism of the Arabs!

5. Even in the realm of al-3Ulum al-Islamiya (Hadith, Tafseer, Sira etc...) 70% were composed by non-Arabs and wannabe Arabs (see 3Ali Dashti"s book: "Bist o Seh Saal") and not by Arabs! Even the father of the Arabic language, Sibawayhe, was not even an Arab and the man that invented much of the words (in science, medicine and math) of Middle Arabic and the Arabic short vowels was no other than Hunein who was a Christian and not an Arab!

6. You are a good Muslim and believe that every thing your Allah and Abul Qasim the war lord/ caravn raider uttered is correct? Right? In cluding the fraudulent concept of al-jahiliya which means that Islam was a new begining and it was nothing but "historical discontinuity" which is another bogus Islamic idea Right?. Then based on the concept of al-jahiliya there was no need for Muslims to translate the Greek learning! Right? But it seems that examination of the historical evidence debunkes such Islamic nonsesne.

The great German historian C. Becker wrote this much celebrated sentence: "So bizarr es klingt ohne Alexander den Grossen keine islamische Zivilisation" Which means that without the Greek learning there would have been no Islamic/Arabic civilization which debunkes the fraudulent jahiliya concept of your Allah and Abul Qasim.

The "islamische Zivilisation" preserved the Greek learning until Europe (Greek drma/myth and philosophy) reclaimed its heritage!

The real question now here is why do you come back for more ?

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