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Submitted by Noah Wilk (United States), Nov 18, 2006 at 18:58

Mu'een Ud Deen, you are clearly an Islamic propagandist. Unfortunately for you, I am here to correct the lies you're trying to pass off as the truth. Let's dissect your argument.

First, on the very nature of Islam, you wrote:

"First and foremost, I am a servant and Slave of Allah"

Perhaps this is why Islam allows for human slavery in the countries where it breeds? Perhaps because your religion sees all humans as slaves. Christianity gives people free choice. God gives people free choice. According to Christianity, man has free will.

"Many of the readers online have a complete prejudice against Islam even before they read the article, they accuse and accuse yet they don't look at their problems and mistakes. Islam doesn't enforce it's will on others unless they enforce it's will on It."

Oh, you mean like when Islam doesn't enforce its will on innocent reporters who are in Iraq simply to report the truth to the world, and the Muslims there kidnap them and force them to convert on threat of death? Islam isn't forcing itself on the West by sending mass migrations of Muslims to our countries and demanding preferential treatment? Islams isn't forcing itself on others when CAIR declares that it intends for Islam to be the ONLY religion in America? You're obviously also in denial of the reality of Islam, which has a history of unprovoked invasion and conversion by the sword.

"Islam is a beautiful religion -"

I find it very difficult to call any religion "beautiful" that advocates the death of Jews, the death of anyone who does not convert to its worship, and that endorses the suppression and raping of women. Maybe we simply have a different definition of "beautiful", is that it?

You then attack the Bible for having "errors":

"I could point and mock christianity as well as other faiths - for example in the book of Genesis; the bible claims that God made vegitation and plants then God produced light - how the hell can plants live without sunlight? Whereas, if you look in the Qur'an, Allah says that first the planets were created each moving around its own celestial body. Which one makes sense to you?"

Yet another example where I find myself in the position of telling a Muslim "let he who is without sin cast the first stone", to use a Biblical phrase. How about all the illogical statements in the Koran?

Sura 27:18-19 - Solomon talks to ants. And yet we know ants cannot talk, nor understand human language. They communicate through tactile senses and chemical smells.

What about cosmology? The Koran claims that there are 7 layers of heavens in the sky with the stars on one level and the moon on another. (Sura 67:3, 71:15 , Sura 67:5, 37:6, 41:12 , Sura 71:16).

How about the Koran on human embryology?

"Then We made the sperm into a clot of congealed blood; then of that clot We made a (foetus) lump; then We made out of that lump bones and clothed the bones with flesh" (Sura 23:14).

Shall we discuss the claim of Seven Earths in the Koran, and early Islamic scholars claiming that there are seven FLAT earths?

Like I said, it's another case of the pot calling the kettle black.

Next, you claim:

"Islam is a beacon of hope for humanity."

Is that why all the Islamic countries are festering cesspools of ignorance, trampled freedoms, intolerance, fanaticism, and primitive society?Let's challenge this so-called "beacon of hope" by looking at the REALITY of Islam, shall we?

Sudan - An Islamic country where millions of Christians are being raped, tortured, and murdered in the name of Allah. Is rape, torture, and death the "beacon of hope" Islam represents?

Iran - An Islamic country that calls for a genocide against an entire race (Jews) and the destruction of an entire country (Israel). You call this a "beacon of hope"? Only a homicidal maniac could call that a "beacon of hope" with a straight face!

Saudi Arabia - An Islamic country where women are not allowed to drive cars or receive education, where other religions are forbidden by law, where even visitors and guests to that country have their religions rights trampled upon. This is your "beacon of hope"?

Kosovo - An Islamic country where Muslims are engaging in ethnic cleansing. This is hope for humanity?

The Palestinian Territories - Islamic territory where Jews are not allowed to even live, where children are taught that Jews are subhuman and where mothers pray that their children will grow up to become murderous madmen who strap bombs to their bodies in order to murder crowds of innocent people. You call this "hope for humanity"?

I call it murderous, barbaric insanity.

The typical response of Muslims to the claim that the so-called "religion of peace" (Islam) is violent is "How dare you say Islam is a violent religion? I'll kill you for saying that!". Strange way to back that claim!

You then go on to make absurd claims about the war in Iraq:

"So many people wonder where these so-called 'Islamists' come from and the answer lies in people like you. Just a few days ago it emerged that a 14 year old MUSLIM girl was raped and her family killed by a group of so-called US Coalition troops. Then you wonder why there are Islamists and such insurgency in Iraq because the truth is Islam isn't the disease - you are."

So you're telling me that Islam is violent and that Islamic terrorists are blowing up not only innocent people but also fellow Muslims in Iraq because one girl was raped? What about all the rapes of children being committed by Muslims in Muslim countries? Rape is about as common in Islamic countries as sunshine!

You also ignore the fact that when Americans catch one of theirs raping a little girl, that rapist is thrown in jail and cast out of society. Even our criminals in prison will take it upon themselves to kill a person who rapes a little girl, that's how reprehensible we find such a person. In contrast, had that girl been raped by a Muslim, she most likely would have been stoned to death or otherwise murdered by her own family in order to restore the family's "honor", and the rapist set free.

Finally, on that point, the violence of Islam predates the very existence of the United States, so your claim that America is the source of Islam's violence is absurd and irrational.

You then ask:

"People are quick to mention when a Muslim commits a crime but what about the christain, jewish or hindu man or women who commits a crime - why arent they labeled with their respective religions?"

Perhaps it's because when a Christian or a Jew commits a crime like murder, those religions condemn the criminal and punish him to the fullest extent of the law. By contrast, when Muslims commit heinous crimes, we see them dancing in the streets celebrating, as they did after the 9/11 Islamic terror attacks which murdered thousands of innocent people. Islam is the only religion on earth that I have ever seen celebrating mass homicides and genocidal acts.

I'll note that you also show your inherent disrespect for other religions by capitalizing the "M" in "Muslim" while leaving the first letter of "jews", "hindus", and "christians" lower-case.

Let's look at this strange claim of yours:

"The reason why Islam is targeted so much - is because religion no longer exists in the modernised European 'way of life' - you don't wish to practise your religion and you mock those who practise theirs. You can argue all you wish but in your heart of hearts you know you do not implemnt religious beliefs in daily life."

Perhaps you need to move to a country that allows freedom of education, because you're obviously suffering from serious delusions about America and Europe. America for example is predominantly Christian and most Americans believe in God. We say prayers before eating, before going to bed, we say prayers before Congress meets.

You also say:

"'The Earth never changes unless the people living within it change."

Why then does Islam wish to remain in the Dark Ages? Why do they suppress information, other religions, women's rights, etc? Why is it that all Islamic countries are centuries behind Western countries in so many ways? It's a fact that all religions, including Christianity, went through violent periods, but those religions have gotten in touch with the times and have become non-violent and truly peaceful. Why does Islam revel in remaining in the Dark Ages of its barbaric past?

Finally, you tell us:

"Alhamdulillah - I'm a Muslim - thank my lord for it because since Islam has been highlighted in the media - I recogise, love and am proud of my idenitiy."

Your religion has been highlighted in the media due to its endorsement of and incitement of terrorism, murder, rape, genocide, and torture. Your religion is involved as one side of over 90% of the battles going on in the world today. Your religion is committing genocide in places like Sudan, Darfur, Somalia, etc.

If I were you, I'd be hanging my head in shame, not lifting it in pride.


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