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For Azmat Zuberi (Rabina Yu3azim Alihu) and the Arabic language and the word Islam!

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Aug 12, 2006 at 17:49

My Dear Azmat (RYA) you wrote: "the Arabic language word of Islam is from the root word (sic) Sa la ma (sic)"

You must pardon me but your ignorance of the root system of the Arabic language is very clear.

1. There is no such thing as a "root word." Could this be a typo? I very much doubt it.

2. There is no root called sa, la, ma!!! The root that you are talking about is: SLM. Notice that if I vocalize it, it would be: _seen_, lam_meem and not sa la ma as you claim!!

So far you get an "F" in your al- Nahw al-3Arabi (oh I forgot that you know no Arabic but you can consult your ignorant Mulllah).

3. Now the fact that words can have a common root in the Arabic language does not mean that they would have any thing in common more than a common root.

Case in point: the word kafir or unbeliever and the word kafr or village. Both words share the same root: KFR but this is where is ends.

So my dear Azmat (RYA) would you also propose that a kafir is a village and a village is a kafir? Do you see how silly this is and how ill informed you are?

4. Now, I doubt that you know any Arabic Nahw or grammar, but here is your lesson:

The Arabs use Sibawayhe's F3L to sort out Arabic grammar and words (do you know who was Sibawayhe and what is a F3L? I very much doubt it).

Here in the infidel west we use the Form Verb system II-VI to sort out verbs in the Arabic language and words with different Form Verbs can be very different words even if they share the same root, so yes the words Islam and salam come from the same root but this is all that they have in common:

A. Yastalim (Yafta3il) means he receives. This has nothing to do with the word salam or the word Islam but it is still comes from the same root: SLM

B. Yaslam (Yaf3al and a very different Form Verb) means he becomes a Muslim. This word has nothing to do with yastalim/istilam or he receives/ receiving, or with the word Yusallim/salam or he provides greetings/peace. As for the word Islam it means: surrender to Allah that is it, and it has nothing to do with the Arabic word salam except that they both have the common root: SLM and not sa, la, ma as you claim.

C. Yusalim means (Yufa33il) he provides greetings, and salam means peace.

D. And this one is your bonus: salalim (p) or silim and you guessed they mean: steps/step but it also shares the same root with islam/salam/istilam.

So would you also propose that Islam and step/steps have any thing in common?

Now if you do not get this you are really beyond help.,

Now if you think that there is a link between Islam and peace, I can only tell you: Dream on.

So My dear Azmat (RYA) are you another Pakistani that knows no Arabic? Or are you an Arab that flunked his Nahw (grammar) classes?

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