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Poor Muslim theology and apostasy

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Nov 9, 2008 at 09:22

Our dear Keith who is really not a Keith but another Pakistani (oh you can ask me how do I know that you are really a Pakistani. Just ask) wrote

>Apostasy laws are equivalent with our treason laws. Treason is a capital offense in the U.S. Apostasy is treason in Islamic countries. Also, the punishments are rarely carried out in the U.S. as well as in Islamic countries.I see the similarities with Islam and the west because the west took from Islam as much as Islam took from the west. Islam is easy my friend. It may look hard to you but trust me, it is easy. With God's help anything is easy.There are a lot of Sunnah traditions that your friends were sharing with you. Those are not mandatory. God willing, I plan to go to Saudi Arabia someday. I can't wait.

Well let me see:

1. You are correct that the Fuqaha agree that he who becomes a murtadd or apostate must be punished if he/she still renounces islam after being given a chance to repent. This punishment is death. But to call it khiyana (oh I do not translate transliterated Arabic for wannabe Arabs like you may be you can ask one of your Arab masters to tell you what this word means) is not correct as far as I know and if you can provide me with sources that tell us that inna al-irtidadd khiyanatun lel Islam I will appreciate it very much but notice the following will not be regareded as evidence:

A. My Mullah told me so.

2. wikipedia

3. Pakistani web sites

4. The Zabad inscription

5.My Arab masters told me so

2. Now let me see: based on the islamic doctrine of al-qada' wa al-qadr your Allah plans everything you do. Right?

3. Now if you apostatize from Islam, which I hope you will do and revert back to the religion of your Hindu ancestors oh did i say Hindu?, then it is Allah that planned it. Right?

4. Then to regard any ex-Msulim who yartadd min al-Islam as a khaa'in (or he who betrays) to islam then you are going agaist your Allah's will and plan. Right? Now do you see how silly you are?

5. But wait: if Allah is to be blamed for apostasy then how can we get in touch with him to get him to change his little qada' wa qadr so those ex-Muslims can become Muslims again? Do you have his e-mail address?

6. Why do some Muslims apostatize? Could it be because there is no Allah to get them to change their minds? or could it be because Allah is not omnipotent? or could it be because your Allah is willing to see those that apostatize being killed but in this case your Allah would be evil. So is your Allah evil?So which one is it?

> may God guide you,

Is the God here Allah? If so you will be waiting for a long time ...

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