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Nura: Your faith gives a damn for beliefs other than Islam

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Submitted by Plato (India), Oct 16, 2008 at 10:08

Nura, you wrote:

>>Another, egotist. I'm sorry, but our faith does not revolve around your comfort and wishes.<<

Never were truer words said. Your faith gives a damn for the comfort or wishes of non-Muslims. How many verses are there that curse abuse and threaten us with punishment in this life and the after life for merely not kow-towing to your Almighty Allah? There are nearly 400 or so verses that show extreme antagonism towards unbelievers including threats of unspeakable tortures in His hell.

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YUSUFALI: For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are the deaf and the dumb,- those who understand not.
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YUSUFALI: Those who reject Faith, and die rejecting,- on them is Allah's curse, and the curse of angels, and of all mankind;

Our wish is to live in peace but will Allah rest until the whole of humanity is under his control? Why else would He say:

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YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter

>> It may just be that Muslims actually love their religion. Inconceivable? There is an enlightenment going on in Islam. It is called the call for the return to the religion, I assure you Muslims are not leaving their religion.<<

Muslims are returning to their religion, a religion that tells them:

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YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! Take not for friends unbelievers rather than believers: Do ye wish to offer Allah an open proof against yourselves?

This order from Allah means that you cannot be friends with unbelievers. You Nura live in the USA. Do you avoid the Christian and Jewish Americans because of this direct and other (3:118, 4:139) orders from Allah. You even have to reject your parents and near relatives (9:23). Is this how Allah enlightens Muslims? Is it any wonder that Muslims are rejecters of everything and everyone they consider un-Islamic? Nura, you love a religion that asks you to be unfriendly with anyone who is not a Muslim. Prove to me I am wrong.

>>Actually, people of your religion are leaving it for Islam.<<

Really? Give us some statistics. The first place to look for people accepting would be the prisons in the USA.

>>Why does the West believe that it can dictate the faith of a people. Make it outlawed?<<

Nura you live in the West and yet you make such a dishonest statement. You claim that Christians are leaving Islam. How can that be if the West dictates the faith of people. They cannot even dictate the faith of people in their own territories. Where in the world do they dictate who believes what? Show us.

Which religion outlaws other religions? Read:

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YUSUFALI: If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).

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YUSUFALI: It is He Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to proclaim it over all religion: and enough is Allah for a Witness.

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YUSUFALI: Allah has decreed: "It is I and My messengers who must prevail": For Allah is One full of strength, able to enforce His Will.

In how many Arab countries can a Hindu install his idols. In the country you live in there are plenty of Hindu temples and also mosques. So tell us again Nura which religion outlaws other religions.

>> If the argument was based on violence, Judaism and Christianity has far more violence in history than Islam will ever have. UNDESPUTED.<<

Why do you bring in Judaism? They suffered violence under both the Christians and Muslims. Six million Jews are witness to that in modern times. And the Banu Quraiza are witness for Muslim ethnic cleansing of Jews.

Violence against African blacks in the form of the slave trade continued until the twentieth century and continues to this day in the violence against the negroes of Darfur.

>>The blood of Muslim civilians is the most split in the world, can you dispute that?<<

Who does this spilling of Muslim civilian blood? Check out what is happening in Darfur. More Muslims have been killed in just a few years by other Muslims in Sudan than perhaps all the Palestinians killed by Israel during this past sixty years. Count the number of Muslims killed by Muslims in Iraq, Pakistan, Algeria and Afghanistan. Can you dispute the fact that Muslims kill unbelievers in large numbers and also other Muslims.

Your prophet set a good example for spilling of civilian blood when he had all males of the Banu Quraiza, including children who had grown pubic hair, massacred in a single night.

Regards

Plato

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