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Reader comment on item: Turkey: An Ally No More
in response to reader comment: Barbarians demand "humantarian approach" to them!
Submitted by Turk (Turkey), Jan 22, 2010 at 06:57
Emperor Alexios Comnenus in a letter written around 1080 (9 years after Manzikert) to Rober Count of Flanders writes :
" I wish to make known you prudence how the most sacred empire of the Greek Christians is being sorely distressed by [....] the Turks, who daily ravage it and unitermittently seize its territory; and there is promiscuous slaughter and indescribable killing and derision of the Christians. [...]."
Good Letter. A historical, valuable and unbiased evidence from the ruler of an Empire which has lost a major war only a decade ago, trying to create a 'missa contra turcas' and prepare the base for the 1st Crusade.
I am sure that the ambassadors the very same Commenus sent to Piacenza Council in 1095 continued to whine what 'those bad, bad Seljuk Turks' did to them, so that Pope Urban II called for a Crusade in Council of Clermont in very same year.
Meantime please also advise us what happened to Romanos Diogenes who lost Manzikert battle to Alp Arslan..
Anyhow , now lets put your following comment under the letter you have quoted
In short it is what the Turkish Moslem beast did and was after wherever he came - be in in Asia Minor, in Serbia or in Poland. Your phrase "we didn't change your language, religion or whatever" belongs to the most outrageous and impudent lies stemming from your barbaric ignorance and deep contempt for all the victims of the Turkish jihad.
It doesn't seem to be very different than the above one with the similar intend , but less political, less intelligent and more personal , don't you think ?
Meantime Ottoman Empire was a medieval one and this or that way , under supression or not , Christians existed in the empire. Can you show me a single medieval Christian Kingdom where Muslims , even Jews were allowed to exist ?
Visibly, you want us to forget that, but whover criticizes Turkishness in Turkey in public is jailed for up to 4 years. It's extremely progressive and 'useful' to generate the ubiquitous atmosphere of conformism and complacency Turkey is notorious for.
Sheer Paranoia or cheap propaganda . Which one exactly?
Could tell me a joke about Kemal the Circumcised Secularist or Allah the Pork-Eater? If you can then I can agree you ahve a rudimentary sense of humour. Otherwise, don't deceive me or anyone else with being funny while you're nothing but a failed clown!
Trying to see what lies behind ones zipper or what Allah has for lunch may not necessarly suit ones sense of humor. Meantime sterotypes like you usually add 'Drunkard Jew' when they are trying to insult Mustafa Kemal. You forgot to add 'drunkard' and most probably omitted 'Jew' on purpose due to presence of Jews in this website. So what does this makes you , a failed incompetent clown ?
Honesty is the best policy, Turk... I call it what it is.When I see a barbarian bastardized parasitic nation that spreads self-glorifying lies and is after more conquest and enslavement of others, I call what I see. Sacrifificing honesty to pleasing the barbarian Turk is nothing but policy suicide . Feel free to be furious about my not being suicidal...!
Then be honest.. When you are speaking about bloody mediveal empires or imperialism , speak in general without forgetting to omit others as well including western ones. Hating certain nations due to personal reasons and describing them with desperate and juvenile terms like 'bastardized , parasitic', and while doing this hiding behind the available global trends created just to suck middle east oil or boost proifts of Anglosaxon corporations may be considered as 'clowning around' by some people rather than an act of honesty.
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turkey [95 words] | sse hu | Oct 28, 2009 02:37 | 163640 | ||
Turkey and EU [21 words] | T.M | Oct 28, 2009 02:26 | 163639 | ||
Your last sentence is intritguing [9 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Abu Nudnik | Oct 28, 2009 01:24 | 163637 | ||
Turkey: An Ally No More [22 words] | Steven L | Oct 27, 2009 23:26 | 163634 | ||
![]() | Ianus | Oct 29, 2009 19:27 | 163634 | ||
Turkey an ally noi more [151 words] | Fazal Habib Curmally | Oct 27, 2009 23:16 | 163632 | ||
![]() | Erdogan | Nov 5, 2009 23:09 | 163632 | ||
![]() | Fazal Habib Curmally | Nov 6, 2009 22:54 | 163632 | ||
![]() | Ianus | Nov 7, 2009 15:48 | 163632 | ||
How does the West expect Turkey to be the bridge between the east and west if they don't have ties with both sides ? [165 words] | Sydney Australia | Oct 27, 2009 22:34 | 163630 | ||
Europes rejection [157 words] | paul Gertz | Oct 27, 2009 22:29 | 163629 | ||
Strange Bedfellows [51 words] | Gerald Lafon | Oct 27, 2009 20:59 | 163627 | ||
![]() | Ianus | Oct 29, 2009 18:27 | 163627 | ||
2 | The Turks are the most confused people on earth [309 words] | dhimmi no more | Oct 27, 2009 20:54 | 163626 | |
![]() | adnan khan | Nov 1, 2009 02:35 | 163626 | ||
1 | ![]() | Ianus | Nov 1, 2009 14:50 | 163626 | |
![]() | the Grand Infidel of Kafiristan | Nov 2, 2009 15:45 | 163626 | ||
![]() | Ianus | Nov 2, 2009 18:15 | 163626 | ||
![]() | dhimmi no more | Nov 10, 2009 11:05 | 163626 | ||
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![]() | Ianus | Nov 11, 2009 08:35 | 163626 | ||
![]() | Mirza | Nov 18, 2009 22:54 | 163626 | ||
![]() | dhimmi no more | Nov 19, 2009 20:23 | 163626 | ||
![]() | Mirza Iskandar Khan | Nov 23, 2009 18:07 | 163626 | ||
![]() | dhimmi no more | Nov 24, 2009 18:20 | 163626 | ||
![]() | dhimmi no more | Nov 25, 2009 17:56 | 163626 | ||
![]() | General Mirza Iskandar Khan | Nov 25, 2009 20:43 | 163626 | ||
![]() | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | Nov 26, 2009 04:55 | 163626 | ||
![]() | dhimmi no more | Dec 2, 2009 21:04 | 163626 | ||
![]() | dhimmi no more | Dec 3, 2009 07:41 | 163626 | ||
![]() | dhimmi no more | Dec 3, 2009 08:00 | 163626 | ||
![]() | Alper Can Gündoğdu | Mar 24, 2010 23:53 | 163626 | ||
![]() | anon | Apr 2, 2010 16:52 | 163626 | ||
![]() | Ianus | Apr 4, 2010 05:25 | 163626 | ||
What is plan B? [203 words] | Art K. | Oct 27, 2009 20:51 | 163625 | ||
European Union [41 words] | Alan Fox | Oct 27, 2009 19:44 | 163622 | ||
Nice Work, Obama [10 words] | democratsarefascists | Oct 27, 2009 19:23 | 163621 | ||
![]() | Doug Corrigan | Oct 30, 2009 11:40 | 163621 | ||
Dustbins of Turkish history [304 words] | Ianus | Oct 27, 2009 19:01 | 163620 | ||
![]() | Sydney, Australia | Oct 29, 2009 01:28 | 163620 | ||
![]() | Ianus | Oct 29, 2009 17:28 | 163620 | ||
![]() | Evren, UK | Mar 10, 2010 17:41 | 163620 | ||
![]() | Ianus | Mar 12, 2010 15:37 | 163620 | ||
Civilized divorce is probably the best option [190 words] | BA | Oct 27, 2009 18:57 | 163619 | ||
Keep blaming everyone but Israel... [26 words] | Anthony | Oct 27, 2009 17:43 | 163614 | ||
![]() | BA | Oct 29, 2009 01:58 | 163614 | ||
1 | ![]() | Ianus | Oct 29, 2009 06:33 | 163614 | |
![]() | Canadian | Oct 29, 2009 23:40 | 163614 | ||
![]() | Froike | Oct 30, 2009 09:12 | 163614 |