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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Nov 24, 2009 at 01:52

'Dawud' (can we call you 'Dave'?) , writes:

"....so what, ... there are 1.5 billion muslims in the world and counting,"

And there's more than 38 million sheep in New Zealand - you seem to think the numbers are important . But in any case, it's still nowhere near enough to bash all the world's populations to submit to Islam (if that were possible to begin with). What is your point?

"you think your make believe story about apostating is supposed to bother me one little bit?"

I used the word 'hypothetical' - (I guess make believe is easier to spell- but you could have just cut and pasted 'hypothetical'). You offered no answer to the hypothetical situation. It wasn't meant to trick you. A straight answer would have been nice though - rather than totally ignoring it. You see, it's all well and good wishing for and working towards the destruction of the society in which you were brought up - but you have no answers about what to replace it with - other than vague generalisations.

It is as easy as pie for sane, rational people to poke holes in your arguments. I asked you a 'what- if'. Simply - that if you sire a gaggle of say ten mini-me Muslims, there's a good chance that a few of them will have a gutful of your antics - and throw in the Muslim towel. They will be apostates. So, in your fantasy world - where the UK is under Sharia with a Muslim majority - what happens to your progeny when they are charged with apostasy and sentenced to death? What do you do - stick up for your 'religion' or stick up for your children? It's not a trick question. A simple answer will do for this simple hypothesis.

It really goes to show you've thought nothing out about what you'll replace society's customs and mores with doesn't it? You're bereft of ideas and plausible solutions to all the problems a Muslim society would bring in the West. What do you do about all the people who like to Watch TV Show XYZ. Say a lot of people like to watch it but it's a little risque maybe - and totally against the new Grand UK Ayatollah's ideas of what he thinks Allah and Mohammed would want their Muslims to be watching. So what do you do - ban the dhimmis from watching it? Stop Hollywood from producing it? What does the film and TV industry do in the new sharia compliant system - make documentaries on the use of camels throughout history or maybe documentaries on how buraks are able to fly ? How are you going to stop so many people's noses getting out of joint? Don't you think an insurrection against the new Muslim World Order would be on the cards? If they don't submit - what happens? But before it even got to that stage how do you disarm the infidel's armies ?? That's going to be one hell of a problem for you.

You're on the Muslim bandwagon at present - but its wheels are falling off in the West.

".......Someone must have apostated in order for me to become muslim as Allah SWT has guarenteed that when one muslim apostates another reverts in his place."

That's a ridiculous statement - it's like saying 'someone, somewhere must have painted his loungeroom blue for me to be painting mine yellow'. There is no connection between the two events at all.Yours is a totally unproveable statement to make - but what if it's just not true - ever considered that ? What if it was just something written in a book that was actually authored by human beings? What if you're a fantasy prone individual who hears what he wants to hear?

I dont know if you've looked outside recently. Islam is far from being a thing of the past. In my area a church is being converted into a mosque as we speak. A pub was recently converted into a mosque also. Islam is as strong as ever and its a rising force and the west is in terminal decline."

... Of course Muslims are going to be overrepresented in one area - as in general they form enclaves and do not take Christians and Jews for friends and do not integrate very well at all. So you will see more Muslims in one concentrated in one locale. So because your fantasy prone mind sees a building or two converted for Muslim use in that locale - you automatically assume it's happening everywhere . So you delude yourself even further into thinking how big a hold Islam is having in your country..

"As for your ignorance in arabic and your pathetic attempt to correct me,...........kafir is certainly not going to change my arabic transliteration. I really cant be bothered with the linguistics debate, its hardly a priority for me. Im done so carry the pointless arguement on all you want."

You're addressing Dhimmi here not me. I'm the guy who asked you to explain how sharia would work in London for a particular hypothetical situation, remember? Which makes it seem as though you don't really look at what is in front of you.

Dhimmi is a fluent arabic speaker - yet - even though you admit you are just learning Arabic - you won't stand for correction will you? Don't you think you're being just a tad arrogant? Just a tiny, tiny amount?

"I think your accusations of me not really being a white englishman is a subcouncious freudian slip that you are not really an arab and you are in fact just some kafir with nothing better to do."

Dhimmi doesn't think you're a white Englishman. I think you actually are a white Englishman as you have stated. I may be wrong - you could be an Eskimo for all it matters . You either are or are not - but if you are- there's a good chance you'll grow out of this childishness once you reallise the corrupt nature of the beast and if you are capable of abstract thought to any degree - one day you'll see it really offers no answers.

"Allah guides those who want to be guided and are sincere in their search for truth."

Scientologists are sincere in their search for truth - and so were David Applewhite's Heaven's Gates group. Millions of people have been very sincere in their search for truth. But generally no arabian deity makes their presence known - only to those conditioned to believe it. You've obviously had special tuition from your arabic & pakistani brother's - ever so keen to bring a trophy white guy into the cult . Major Hasan was sincere in his search for truth too - in fact very sincere - doing everything on that day two weeks ago that a good Muslim should have. If he could re-run his life at that point - don't you think he'd preferred now that he is paralysed from the neck down and facing at least life in jail - that allah wasn't guiding him?

"You are a friend of shaitaan and deserve your punishments on the yawmil quiyaama. "

meaningless gibberish or secret code for....?

Is that like saying 'you are the son of a Jötunn and should be hung upside down by the bollocks from the Yggdrasil?"

You're big in throwing around names and threats and curses on people you've never met aren't you?

الناس في بيوت من زجاج ينبغي ألا يرشق الآخرين بالحجارة

"Someone has to side with the dajaal so guess its to be expected that there will be people like you around."

"....Im not concerned in the least because we have Allah on our side and victory is promised."

By mighty Odin's beard, thou art deluded - ' The end of the world is at hand - yet men are hard and cruel, and listen not to the doom that is coming . No one heeds the cries of his neighbour, or lifts a hand to save. ' (from Ragnarok). You pride yourself on being an instrument of destruction and want to set yourself up promoting what is ultimately an evil philosophy that holds hundreds of millions of people in a medieval mentality? An intelligent person often asks the question of himslef - 'what if I am wrong'?

"You are being destroyed from within by the fifth column ethnics you hate so much :-)"

I know you're writing this for Dhimmi - but you mean it for whoever disagrees with you and your worldview. What sort of ethnics are we talking about here? Chinese, Russians, Serbs, Croats, Bulgarians? I like Chinese - they are geneally very peaceful, friendly and can hold an intelligent conversation without wanting to lay a trip on you. The are not into destroying society from within. Same with Russians and Serbs. So which 'ethnics' are you hoping will destroy society from within? Can you give us a definite clue? You must at least have some clue about something , right?


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