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Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Nov 7, 2009 at 21:45

Mr. Dawud rwites:

"...I'm a revert Alhamdulillah because we are all born muslim "

As I've pointed out in another post - we are actually all born Buddhist

'...but those of us who have non muslim parents effectively leave the fold of islam through our upbringing."'
What a cop out! You don't like yourslf so blame your parents for how you are?

" ........I agree saudi is a beautiful place to live"

the capacity for humans to delude themselves never ceases to fascinate.

'..... I plan to have a large family and help actively propagate islam in order to aid the 'islamification' of europe. My grandfather faught in world war 2 as a paratrooper in the 6 airborne in order to drive out nationalism ''

Obviously .... Your grandfather was not 'driving out nationalism' - he was repelling the advances of German National Socialism onto the island of England. In much the same way that many people now in Europe are heading the fight against that other, more insidious form of totalitarian fascism - Islam. You're too blind to see that working for a similar sort of dakness that your grandfather fought against.

'.........If you don't agree with islam that's fine but if you wish to prevent me from propagating islam then you'll have to abandon your plans to spread your 'democracy' as you would no longer have it in the west. I see no reason muslims should be excluded from democracy.'

But you despise this 'so called' democracy don't you? Muslims are excluded from democracy in many Muslim countries - why don't you go to those Muslim countries that do have limited democracies and preach that they shouldn't?

" one day inshallah europe will be overun with muslims and in the current 'demoratic' system there is nothing you can do to stop without without removing our 'rights' or having double standards."

It is certainly possible to remove rights - that is exactly what happened in WW2 . If any group or philosophy demonstartes a clear and present danger to any society - then there are systems in place for dealing with them. In emergency situations we always take the necessary steps to deal with any event.

"allahu akbar, .."

There's that funny phrase again. The same one shouted out during the unfortunate US Army psychiatrist's murderous outburst in Ft.Hood, Texas.

"every time the kuffar try to harm the muslims, allah makes us stronger. How funny that with all your modern technology and armies you are slowly being conquered by people you consider 'inferiour and backwards'."

A claim made without evidence. Where is the 'kuffar' being conquered by the ' inferiour (sic) and backwards'. people?"

If you mean Afghanistan - NATO and Western troops certainly have the means to destroy every living thing in its territory. But, not being barbaric people - they are selective in who is dealt with - deliberately targetting enemy combatants. They're not looking for Afghans hiding behind trees and rocks - unless they are Taliban.

"My wife had 9 brothers and sisters and inshallah I intend to try and top that in order to do my bit for this demographic jihad. "

So you think the solution to this already over-poplated world's many problems is to breed more Muslims? Do you expect to rely on social security payouts or hypocritically accept any form of aid form 'the kuffar' whom you so despise in bringing up these imaginary Muslims?

It might make some make sense to breed very bright people - but people who are the progeny of people who are not very bright - well ......

And if you were successful in breeding ten mini-me Muslims - is there any guarantee that they would stay Muslim - given that they would have a father with such myopic, totalitarian ideals. I'd expect many wouldn't cop it - and end up despising their upbringing and telling you where to go with your crock. So what would happen to such apostates? Would you recommend they were stoned to death or beheaded - or would you leave it to the Greater London Sharia Court which draconian punishment they'd be dealt with?

" ........even if I die in this path I am a shaheed, who died in allah's path and nothing can stop the spread of islam and destruction of the west."

Sieg Heil!!! If your grandfather could somehow have see the future he would have had a vasectomy .

".......May allah guide you all to the light of islam or give you what is deserved ........."

May Truth extinguish the darkness of Islam .

Submitting....

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